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Offline Baruch

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #135 on: December 26, 2017, 03:17:21 PM »
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Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #136 on: January 18, 2018, 02:59:10 PM »
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Careful you don't spontaneously combust.  All the characters we project, reside in our Id.  Just ask the Krell.

My Id, Ego, and Superego are quite well attuned, thankyouverymuch...  We discuss me constantly.
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Offline Jason Harvestdancer

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2018, 10:15:18 PM »
The electric car as it is currently situated is a scam.  It wouldn't exist if it weren't heavily subsidized by the government, and even then the price tag means it is being subsidized for the benefit of the rich.  They have yet to build one that would be worthwhile for the average person - fast refill time, good distance, convenient refill locations.

Even then, the ones with the best mileage only achieve that if you don't use any accessories, such as radio or air conditioning.

If you need to go 10 miles into town and 10 miles back, then it could be good enough.  If you need to go 30 miles to work like I do, the good ones can almost get you there.

The powers that be like it for several reasons.  The first is because, as Baruch pointed out, the pollution cost is well hidden.  They don't pollute at the tailpipe ... but the electricity does come from somewhere.  Second, their distance is limited, keeping us serfs from having too much mobility.  Third, they are expensive, forcing us serfs onto public transit.
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Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #138 on: February 04, 2018, 10:20:36 PM »
Where are you getting your information from Jason? 

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Offline Jason Harvestdancer

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #139 on: February 05, 2018, 10:08:17 AM »
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Offline Baruch

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #140 on: February 05, 2018, 12:23:27 PM »
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The electric car as it is currently situated is a scam.  It wouldn't exist if it weren't heavily subsidized by the government, and even then the price tag means it is being subsidized for the benefit of the rich.  They have yet to build one that would be worthwhile for the average person - fast refill time, good distance, convenient refill locations.

Even then, the ones with the best mileage only achieve that if you don't use any accessories, such as radio or air conditioning.

If you need to go 10 miles into town and 10 miles back, then it could be good enough.  If you need to go 30 miles to work like I do, the good ones can almost get you there.

The powers that be like it for several reasons.  The first is because, as Baruch pointed out, the pollution cost is well hidden.  They don't pollute at the tailpipe ... but the electricity does come from somewhere.  Second, their distance is limited, keeping us serfs from having too much mobility.  Third, they are expensive, forcing us serfs onto public transit.

Successful socialism, including corporate socialism, relies on displaced income and expenses ... so that the balance sheet can be massaged.  But then so does the Tragedy of the Commons.  When you don't account for all cash and credit streams, it is easy to think that economics is magical.
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Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #141 on: February 05, 2018, 06:18:40 PM »
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Eric Peters Autos.

Then may I suggest you might want to find a more reliable source.
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Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #142 on: February 05, 2018, 06:23:17 PM »
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Careful you don't spontaneously combust.  All the characters we project, reside in our Id.  Just ask the Krell.

Oh, no, monsters from the Id!

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Offline Baruch

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #143 on: February 05, 2018, 06:30:16 PM »
Where did you get the image of a typical triggered college student? ;-)  Gotta use blasters (that is what they called them in 1954) to keep them from trashing the whole campus.
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Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #144 on: February 05, 2018, 06:45:56 PM »
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Where did you get the image of a typical triggered college student? ;-)

Just googled "monsters from the id" - it's from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, the precursor to Star Trek.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #145 on: February 05, 2018, 07:02:23 PM »
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Just googled "monsters from the id" - it's from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, the precursor to Star Trek.

Rhetorical question .. no need to answer.  Dr Morbius.
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Offline Jason Harvestdancer

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #146 on: February 05, 2018, 07:53:28 PM »
Okay, I exaggerated about the limited range of the electric car, but it does have a range/recharge issue.  If I were to visit my in-laws, I have to drive 400 miles.  I can refuel my gas car in less than 10 minutes as well.
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Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #147 on: February 05, 2018, 08:01:40 PM »
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Rhetorical question .. no need to answer.  Dr Morbius.
Yes, I knew that, but there may be other readers who wanted to know about it.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #148 on: February 05, 2018, 11:21:50 PM »
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Okay, I exaggerated about the limited range of the electric car, but it does have a range/recharge issue.  If I were to visit my in-laws, I have to drive 400 miles.  I can refuel my gas car in less than 10 minutes as well.
They're working on that.  Range is arguably a minor problem, since models with 100-200+ mile ranges are now fairly common.  Granted, if you're regularly undertaking 400 mile journeys, that might be a problem, but the average person's daily needs are much less demanding.

Recharging can now take <30 minutes with quick charging systems.  Then there's overnight residential charging (a several-hour recharge time doesn't matter if it occurs while you're sleeping) and potentially, wireless charging (recharge while you're parked) or simply swap out batteries.

I predict that both range and recharge times will only improve as new technologies come into play.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Believe in Tesla and Volt?
« Reply #149 on: February 05, 2018, 11:28:36 PM »
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Okay, I exaggerated about the limited range of the electric car, but it does have a range/recharge issue.  If I were to visit my in-laws, I have to drive 400 miles.  I can refuel my gas car in less than 10 minutes as well.

You just have to move into the same house as your in-laws and other relatives ;-)  Then the travel distance is much shorter.  You won't even need a bicycle, and you will look swell in your Mao jacket, proclaiming your fealty to Hillary Kim Un.
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