Author Topic: How is this a thing?  (Read 255 times)

Offline pr126 (OP)

How is this a thing?
« on: November 10, 2017, 10:24:15 AM »
Gender fluidity. Ban all cars. Check your butthole privilege.

“True Ignorance is not the absence of knowledge but the refusal to acquire it.” - Karl Popper

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 10:38:34 AM »
I'm sure it's a thing in your nightmares.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Baruch

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 11:33:44 AM »
This is why democracy is wrong.  Tyranny of the majority over the minority.  But today, a tyranny of a minority over a majority.  Maybe all the Californites need to take drug overdoses? (sarc).  They certainly are high on something, all the time.  Canada is trying to legally enforce pronoun dictatorship.

The fetish of equality.  If the law matters, why not just declare everyone in California equal.  All one-un-gender.  Then there is no such thing as straight or homosexual or tranie or bi.  Just an un-ape making out with another un-ape.  Need for just one pronoun.  And while we are at it, make all Mexicans citizens of the independent socialist paradise of California (it was named for mythical amazon queen, how feminist is that?) .. so no more illegal aliens, you aren't illegal alien if you are already a citizen (but California needs to be independent, because it can't grant US citizenship on its own).  And politics ... there is declared to be one party ... so no more partisanship.  And like in Australia, require registration and voting, so no protest of the candidates possible.  Ban write ins and just have one candidate (vetted by Hillary Inc) for each position ... no need to have a contested election if there is one party, right?  And this makes California so much closer to their trading partner, Red China.  And of course, why not have a 1967 version of the Red Guard .. make everyone economically equal, by making everyone poor (not possible to make everyone rich).  And proper regulation ... you can't do anything without permission of the local Red cadre committee, who also dole out local justice.  Isn't Maoism fun?  And what is better than decrying Beijing for being running dogs of capitalism?

Californication can adopt a good existing national anthem ...

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Offline Munch

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 05:53:39 PM »
Cars lead to gay lions bleaching their buttholes

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2017, 07:47:33 PM »
Cars lead to gay lions bleaching their buttholes
I can totally see that.

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Shiranu

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 08:01:56 PM »
38 seconds into it, and he has already appealed to science, claiming that his position is the scientifically backed one, when he clearly doesn't understand science's actual position on the subject.

Sex =/= gender =/= sexuality. I don't know how many times this has to be beaten over your head before it sinks through, but there it is again.

-Sex is what bodily organs you have; a penis if you are a male, a vagina if you are female. This is easily the most straight-forward of the three concepts, but it's unfortunately something that certain people seem to think applies to gender and sexuality as well. So if you would, repeat after me: Sex is purely biological, dependent on what reproductive organs you have between your legs.

-Sexuality is who you are attracted to; straight, gay, lesbian, asexual are all sexualities because they all are describing what gender you are or aren't attracted to.

-Gender is what roles you fulfill within society; while American society has traditionally been bi-gender, when you look at other cultures you see that there can be three, four, five or more recognized genders. Examples of this are the katoey of Thailand and the hijra of India and Pakistan, or on our continent "two-spirits" of multiple Native American tribes. This is not a statement about what sex you are, it's a statement of what your perceived role, desired role and expectations from society are.

You are sharing a video that is objectively wrong; if you want to dislike people for not fitting their gender role, that is entirely within your right to be a bigot towards them. What you don't need to do is come in here, or be like this guy and make videos claiming that science backs up your bigotry, when that is completely false. You are no better than the Social "Darwinists" who claimed that science backed up their bigotry towards the "lesser races".

If you are going to be a bigot, take pride in it. Don't lie and hide behind science, and don't appeal to science like it is the be all, end all of truth. Psychology, sociology, philosophy, anthropology and the like are all not "science" in the test tube sense of the field, but they are just as much truth in practice as physics or biology... and psychology, sociology, anthropology and other fields of these sciences all say that is just wrong.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 01:42:40 AM »
Pr, and anyone else interested in sex - sexuality - gender, I strongly recommend you give this video a view. It is presented in a very non-combative and succinct way, and I think it would really help you see the flaw in his opening statements at least.

“Life isn't long enough to enjoy and understand all at the same time. You have to decide which is more important." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline Shiranu

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 03:09:22 AM »
Continuing my watching...

- My god, you actually believe that calling someone whoms' gender you don't agree with what they want to be called is going to spell the end of Western civilization, don't you? That, out of all the pressing issues in the world, this is the one you actually are taking the time and effort to get morally outraged about?

I don't know if that's impressing or terrifying.

- Yet again, someone who has probably never been to America telling us how our culture "really" is, and then getting angry at people who actually live in that culture saying that isn't true...
“Life isn't long enough to enjoy and understand all at the same time. You have to decide which is more important." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2017, 04:07:27 AM »

Muslims and trannys and leftists oh my!
Some people need to be beaten with a smart stick.

Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid!

Kein Mitlied F�r Die Mehrheit!

Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2017, 04:37:42 AM »
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Muslims and trannys and leftists oh my!
Nope. No mention of Muslims. Nice try.
“True Ignorance is not the absence of knowledge but the refusal to acquire it.” - Karl Popper

Offline Cavebear

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2017, 04:51:48 AM »
Nope. No mention of Muslims. Nice try.

I don't see a connection of muslims and trans, and leftists anyway.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2017, 04:52:54 AM »
Nope. No mention of Muslims. Nice try.
Some people need to be beaten with a smart stick.

Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid!

Kein Mitlied F�r Die Mehrheit!

Offline Cavebear

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2017, 05:02:57 AM »
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For a joke to go over one's head, there has to be info they missed.  I see none there.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2017, 05:26:47 AM »
For a joke to go over one's head, there has to be info they missed.  I see none there.
Spelling it out at the risk of being banned for flaming I suppose:

PR is a fucking coward. He obsesses over Muslims, leftists, and this time trannies. To him western civilization is this fragile thing that must be protected at all points from the onslaught of brutish minorities. This is despite the fact that western culture has steamrolled over history for the past 6 or so centuries. I selected a scene from The Wizard of Oz wherein the protagonists are traveling through a spooky forest and start stating their fears out loud. It is found out that their fears are unfounded because the lion himself is a coward.
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Some people need to be beaten with a smart stick.

Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid!

Kein Mitlied F�r Die Mehrheit!

Offline Cavebear

Re: How is this a thing?
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2017, 05:36:58 AM »
Spelling it out at the risk of being banned for flaming I suppose:

PR is a fucking coward. He obsesses over Muslims, leftists, and this time trannies. To him western civilization is this fragile thing that must be protected at all points from the onslaught of brutish minorities. This is despite the fact that western culture has steamrolled over history for the past 6 or so centuries. I selected a scene from The Wizard of Oz wherein the protagonists are traveling through a spooky forest and start stating their fears out loud. It is found out that their fears are unfounded because the lion himself is a coward.

Ah.  Nice.  I tend to agree with you about PR's obsession/fears with minority groups. 

I like your understanding of The Wizard Of Oz.  Have you ever seen "The Wiz"?

s obsession with all things non-
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950