Author Topic: Schaden, meet freude (again)  (Read 328 times)

Offline Cavebear

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2017, 12:06:11 AM »
I was referring to the Alabama part of your comment.  That's about all they do there is pray--thinking is not recommended nor encouraged.

I agree that "thinking" doesn't seem to be a basic part of the Alabama culture.  And ANY form of forced sexual action is wrong. 

But I think there are some false equivalencies going on.  Bill Clinton engaged in an extra-marital affair with a consenting adult woman.  That was wrong, but a concern between he and his wife.  Al Franken forcible kissed a women and pretended to grab her breasts later in a bad joke.  Both those events were wrong.

But Donald Trump bragged about groping many women "because he could get away with it" and used his position in pageants to intrude on teens dressing for the events.  Roy Moore assaulted a 14 year old girl and stalked teen girls in malls to find vulnerable assaultable ones, and used his position as  District Attorney to bully them into staying quiet.

None of these events and more to come I am sure were justifiable.  But there are differences in degree.

And Al Franken apologized immediately and completely.  Roy Moore and Trump deny it all in numerous situations and threaten to sue the women who make accusations.

There is SOME difference.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2017, 02:36:31 AM »
I agree that "thinking" doesn't seem to be a basic part of the Alabama culture.  And ANY form of forced sexual action is wrong. 

But I think there are some false equivalencies going on.  Bill Clinton engaged in an extra-marital affair with a consenting adult woman.  That was wrong, but a concern between he and his wife.  Al Franken forcible kissed a women and pretended to grab her breasts later in a bad joke.  Both those events were wrong.

But Donald Trump bragged about groping many women "because he could get away with it" and used his position in pageants to intrude on teens dressing for the events.  Roy Moore assaulted a 14 year old girl and stalked teen girls in malls to find vulnerable assaultable ones, and used his position as  District Attorney to bully them into staying quiet.

None of these events and more to come I am sure were justifiable.  But there are differences in degree.

And Al Franken apologized immediately and completely.  Roy Moore and Trump deny it all in numerous situations and threaten to sue the women who make accusations.

There is SOME difference.

I happen to agree.  Some people have never been gentlemen.  Some didn't start as gentlemen but became that later.  But Americans since Salem witch trials, are all sex mania, all the time.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2017, 02:38:55 AM »
I happen to agree.  Some people have never been gentlemen.  Some didn't start as gentlemen but became that later.  But Americans since Salem witch trials, are all sex mania, all the time.

Not even most.  But some are too many.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2017, 02:41:43 AM »
Not even most.  But some are too many.

But no need for feed the "death to all men" feminist agenda either.  Just because men aren't the best, is no reason to listen to psycho-bitches with an axe to grind (I don't mean accusers).
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2017, 02:45:33 AM »
But no need for feed the "death to all men" feminist agenda either.  Just because men aren't the best, is no reason to listen to psycho-bitches with an axe to grind (I don't mean accusers).

I will not discuss "psycho-bitches" vs male sexual predators.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2017, 02:52:08 AM »
I will not discuss "psycho-bitches" vs male sexual predators.

There are female sexual predators too.  If you prefer X over Y ... that is just human, and prejudice.

There is a perpetual problem for females accusing males, even the next morning.  Double standard for them (she asked for it?).

But I would say a man claiming he ass sexually predated on  (by a woman or a gay man) will not be believed either.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2017, 03:01:26 AM »
There are female sexual predators too.  If you prefer X over Y ... that is just human, and prejudice.

There is a perpetual problem for females accusing males, even the next morning.  Double standard for them (she asked for it?).

But I would say a man claiming he ass sexually predated on  (by a woman or a gay man) will not be believed either.

EOL
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Offline trdsf (OP)

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2017, 02:46:13 PM »
And Al Franken apologized immediately and completely.  Roy Moore and Trump deny it all in numerous situations and threaten to sue the women who make accusations.
I might add that in 2006 when that picture was taken, Franken was a comedian and radio host.  Not, so far as I know, even a potential future candidate at that time, much less actually running to be a Senator.

Also, NOT 14.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Schaden, meet freude (again)
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2017, 06:49:53 PM »
I might add that in 2006 when that picture was taken, Franken was a comedian and radio host.  Not, so far as I know, even a potential future candidate at that time, much less actually running to be a Senator.

Also, NOT 14.

Don't worry, when feminists are done, all men will be castrated ;-(
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