Author Topic: Hello from a curious member  (Read 223 times)

Offline GBTG (OP)

Hello from a curious member
« on: November 02, 2017, 06:03:21 PM »
I am not an atheist but I know lots of them! Tends to happen when you work in the secular science community. Interested in the points of view here!

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 06:07:20 PM »
Hi GBTG!

The more the merrier! Hope you'll stick around for a while - many theists don't. But some do, and we have much fun "debating" them.
God Not Found
“Money supplants skill; it's possession allows us to become happily stupid.”
Bill McKibben, The Age of Missing Information

Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 06:35:33 PM »
Welcome, to our little band of heathens.
You a scientist yourself?
E = Mc²

In the end, we are all standing in the dark,
trying to figure out why we are here.
But let us not choose one direction
without proof of where it is headed.

Check your pocket for matches
so we can observe and learn together
as fast friends and relative idiots.

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 07:05:58 PM »
. Interested in the points of view here!
Well, my point of view is that the word "God" is incoherent and means nothing at all, since it can mean anything at all.


Quote from: Charles Bradlaugh
Atheism is without God. It does not assert no God. The atheist does not say that there is no God, but he says 'I know not what you mean by God. I am without the idea of God. The word God to me is a sound conveying no clear or distinct affirmation. I do not deny God, because I cannot deny that of which I have no conception, and the conception of which by its affirmer is so imperfect that he is unable to define it for me.
God Not Found
“Money supplants skill; it's possession allows us to become happily stupid.”
Bill McKibben, The Age of Missing Information

Offline Baruch

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 07:59:22 PM »
Welcome also.  I have no problem with science or religion, but then I am a heretic.  I also have no problem with irrationality or imagination.  Science is useful in devising better medicine and engineering.  Then the medical community and technical community can get to work on more practical matters than a Higgs boson.
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Offline aitm

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2017, 08:45:34 PM »
Welcome stick. I am curious how long it will take you to turn into a pretzel.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2017, 02:19:51 AM »
Hopefully your interest is to learn and contribute to intelligent discussions, rather than to preach. Welcome to our forums.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

Online AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2017, 10:18:14 AM »
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I am not an atheist but I know lots of them!
I bet some of your best friends are atheists..Better start distancing yourself just in case trump is impeached and pence is installed as head theocrat.
Personally I'm a toothfairian.. I sacrificed all of my teeth for the greater good. And as a child I actually received cold hard cash for teeth. I bet god never left cash under your pillow at night.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2017, 10:23:54 AM by AllPurposeAtheist »
All hail my new signature!

Admit it. You're secretly green with envy.

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2017, 02:14:14 AM »
Hello GBTG.   What's secular science?   Is it a new field?
Winner of WitchSabrinas Best Advice Award 2012


We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real
tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. -Plato

Offline Cavebear

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2017, 02:42:54 AM »
Hello GBTG.   What's secular science?   Is it a new field?

Isn't science by nature "secular"?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2017, 06:07:55 AM »
Isn't science by nature "secular"?
Not if you're trying to weasel creationism into the mix by claiming it's "science".
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Baruch

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2017, 09:54:28 AM »
Isn't science by nature "secular"?

Mere Lysenkoism, Comrade Cavebear.  Everything is politics, and the important thing is to think, say and write just like our Chairman in the Kremlin.

"scientia" is a Latin word meaning knowledge.  It was hijacked around 1750 by Enlightenment terrorists like Voltaire and Robespierre.  Before that it was called Natural Philosophy ... but that wasn't good marketing, because we know that philosophy is bullshitting.  Too bad the Church of Reason was so short lived, in Paris, during the Terror.  It was the best of times, it was the worst of times ...
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2017, 05:06:15 AM »
Mere Lysenkoism, Comrade Cavebear.  Everything is politics, and the important thing is to think, say and write just like our Chairman in the Kremlin.

"scientia" is a Latin word meaning knowledge.  It was hijacked around 1750 by Enlightenment terrorists like Voltaire and Robespierre.  Before that it was called Natural Philosophy ... but that wasn't good marketing, because we know that philosophy is bullshitting.  Too bad the Church of Reason was so short lived, in Paris, during the Terror.  It was the best of times, it was the worst of times ...

However, in current times, "science" means a method of thinking in terms of observations and testable conclusions.  Which is why it beats theism...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Offline Baruch

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2017, 06:20:36 AM »
However, in current times, "science" means a method of thinking in terms of observations and testable conclusions.  Which is why it beats theism...

Theism and science aren't opposites, neither are atheism and theism.  Making opposites is a simplification, and a tool of polemic.  Not this here, but that over there ... though both items are on the same planet.  Deeper thinking requires peeling back simplification, particularly the kind one is unaware of.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Hello from a curious member
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2017, 09:34:42 AM »
Theism and science aren't opposites, neither are atheism and theism.  Making opposites is a simplification, and a tool of polemic.  Not this here, but that over there ... though both items are on the same planet.  Deeper thinking requires peeling back simplification, particularly the kind one is unaware of.

Theism and atheism are opposites.  The latter is "the not" of the former.  Theists persist in the hare-brained concept that "atheism" is just another theism.  I resent it.  It is as if you tried to claim the moon was a species of cow.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950