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Offline Jannabear (OP)

I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« on: October 30, 2017, 02:38:12 AM »
Richard Spencer is very likely coming to Cincinnati, I plan on protesting his speech, alongside a church, some UC students, and whoever else comes.
I view him as a threat to local racial minorities, LGBT people, and innocent people in general.
America's economic system is failing miserably, and its descending quickly into a mess.

The historical precedent is that if you don't oppose far right figures who cloak themselves in nationalist rhetoric and racism, they will take control of white working class communities and at the least, bring about neo conservative movements which do a lot of harm, bolster a lot of systemic, and systematic racism, and bolster neo liberal pseudo opposition, and mass support for US imperialism, which we cannot allow now that we finally have two generations who are opposing those things.

Does anyone else plan on going, or have any of you protested him or anyone similar in the past?
« Last Edit: October 30, 2017, 03:09:07 AM by Jannabear »

Offline Baruch

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 06:37:43 AM »
Richard Spencer is very likely coming to Cincinnati, I plan on protesting his speech, alongside a church, some UC students, and whoever else comes.
I view him as a threat to local racial minorities, LGBT people, and innocent people in general.
America's economic system is failing miserably, and its descending quickly into a mess.

The historical precedent is that if you don't oppose far right figures who cloak themselves in nationalist rhetoric and racism, they will take control of white working class communities and at the least, bring about neo conservative movements which do a lot of harm, bolster a lot of systemic, and systematic racism, and bolster neo liberal pseudo opposition, and mass support for US imperialism, which we cannot allow now that we finally have two generations who are opposing those things.

Does anyone else plan on going, or have any of you protested him or anyone similar in the past?

If you go, please be careful.
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Offline Munch

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 07:59:56 AM »
I admire your clout, facing this kinda thing head on. Just be careful and if things turn ugly get out of there

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 12:18:50 PM »
The historical precedent is that if you don't oppose far right figures who cloak themselves in nationalist rhetoric and racism, they will take control of white working class communities and at the least, bring about neo conservative movements which do a lot of harm, bolster a lot of systemic, and systematic racism, and bolster neo liberal pseudo opposition, and mass support for US imperialism, which we cannot allow now that we finally have two generations who are opposing those things.
I don't expect Alt Nazis to be much more than a flash in the pan phenomenon, but I do worry about these pathetic troglodytes exacerbating racial tensions and directly/indirectly causing more violence than they have already.

And yeah, when they encounter stiff resistance, they sometimes cancel and spare everyone from having to endure their tirades of hateful bullshit.  So good on you.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2017, 12:21:16 PM by Hydra009 »

Offline Cavebear

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2017, 12:55:21 AM »
I don't expect Alt Nazis to be much more than a flash in the pan phenomenon, but I do worry about these pathetic troglodytes exacerbating racial tensions and directly/indirectly causing more violence than they have already.

And yeah, when they encounter stiff resistance, they sometimes cancel and spare everyone from having to endure their tirades of hateful bullshit.  So good on you.

It is better to fight against nazi groups in the US now than later.  It is like weeding the garden.  Small weeds are easier to supress now than larger ones later.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Offline Baruch

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2017, 07:02:13 AM »
It is better to fight against nazi groups in the US now than later.  It is like weeding the garden.  Small weeds are easier to supress now than larger ones later.

Too late.  The US was Nazi before 1940, and resumed in 1946.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2017, 08:45:04 AM »
Too late.  The US was Nazi before 1940, and resumed in 1946.
So, you are saying we were on the wrong side?  And too dumb to realize it?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Offline pr126

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2017, 11:05:15 AM »
What is the difference between Nazi, Alt-Nazi or Neo-Nazi? (National Socialist)
How does one distinguish those? What are the signs?

Or is this the wrong question?
“True Ignorance is not the absence of knowledge but the refusal to acquire it.” - Karl Popper

Offline Cavebear

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2017, 11:23:30 AM »
What is the difference between Nazi, Alt-Nazi or Neo-Nazi? (National Socialist)
How does one distinguish those? What are the signs?

Or is this the wrong question?

Not the wrong question.  Just that some people try to change their labels to confuse the public.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Offline pr126

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2017, 11:34:29 AM »
Not the wrong question.  Just that some people try to change their labels to confuse the public.

Well, a Nazi is still a Nazi no matter what pronouns people attaching to them.
I do not think there are different denominations of Nazis.
“True Ignorance is not the absence of knowledge but the refusal to acquire it.” - Karl Popper

Offline Cavebear

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2017, 11:40:17 AM »
Well, a Nazi is still a Nazi no matter what pronouns people attaching to them.
I do not think there are different denominations of Nazis.


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Offline Baruch

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2017, 07:55:21 PM »
So, you are saying we were on the wrong side?  And too dumb to realize it?

Americans are vicious killers, since Jamestown.  Just ask the kind folk of Salem too.  What is the wrong side?  The one I am not on.  I was born here, I live and work here.  So I will defend here ... but not because of Civics 101 lies.  Perhaps, if all other things being equal, and I wasn't American or German, I might have more sympathy for the Germans ... or not.  It is hard not to be prejudiced.  There are fanatics everywhere.

But now, only Superman is on the side of Truth, Justice and the American Way.  I smiled when I learned there were comics with Superman as a Brit, or as a Soviet.  In the Soviet version, Lex Luthor was the US President.
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Offline Baruch

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2017, 08:11:10 PM »
What is the difference between Nazi, Alt-Nazi or Neo-Nazi? (National Socialist)
How does one distinguish those? What are the signs?

Or is this the wrong question?

Calling someone Nazi, outside of some Germans prior to 1950 .... is rhetorical.  It is like saying "you got cooties" ... but you say "you got nazis".  Technically, an alt-Nazi would be any totalitarian during or after that period, who isn't an explicit admirer of Hitler, just of Hitler'e methods.  Outright idolizing of Hitler, post 1950 could make you a neo-Nazi.
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Offline trdsf

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2017, 11:00:28 AM »
Does anyone else plan on going, or have any of you protested him or anyone similar in the past?
Right now we're hoping to keep him from polluting our city; Ohio State has refused to lease him speaking space, although the little turd is suing.

I think they should make as a condition of leasing him the space that he also be responsible for the cost of additional security.  That might change his mind.
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." -- Calvin and Hobbes
"I thought I committed regicide today, but I committed deicide!" -- Sadie Doyle, Beyond Belief

Offline Cavebear

Re: I plan on protesting Richard Spencer
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2017, 01:03:50 AM »
I hesitate on this idea sometimes, but "freedom of speech" doesn't guarantee you a public podium paid for by others... 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950