Author Topic: Gun Control  (Read 1106 times)

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #150 on: November 20, 2017, 07:10:55 PM »
Sorry, you've been hooked by the internet.
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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #151 on: November 20, 2017, 07:19:15 PM »
Well, guess that respect was misplaced.
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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #152 on: November 20, 2017, 07:29:03 PM »
Don't feel bad, I don't give a damn who you respect.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline GrinningYMIR

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #153 on: November 21, 2017, 09:35:35 AM »
Why do these threads always become dick measuring contests?

Optimally? Reintroduce mental institutions and anyone who has major menta illnesses are sent there for help or in worse case, permanent custody. At the very least make it do that certain mental disorders can’t have weapons.

Acknowledge and deal with domestic terrorism and armed gangs, Los Zetas and Army of God examples, disarm, arrest or lethal force I dont care.

The media loves to fan the flames of every crisis and event beyond its importance but they’re right, guns are an issue. We can’t ban them. Don’t even suggest it, we all know how people would react, though truthfully I dont See the point in civilians owning AR-15 semis with an 80 round drum clip. (Don’t like drum clips either) or handguns.

At least have every gun registered and make sure we have a yearly or every 6 month class gun owners are required to release on accuracy and proper gun safety. In this modern day police are more likely to shoot than ever because culians are more likely to shoot than ever. I remeber When we had cops being murdered back home. Everyone was afraid.

The pretty cop girl who came into my store the other day to check on us doesn’t deserve outright hostility, or distrust. But she’s a cop. And everyone hates cops

Btw, she was checking to make sure we were okay becuwse we were open way late, 4 hours past normal closing , and she was worried something was going down
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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #154 on: November 21, 2017, 11:04:24 AM »
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We can’t ban them.

Just like we "cant" have good health care? "Cant" pass civil rights for blacks, then women? "Cant" improve our education system? "Cant" cut back on our military budget? "Cant" legalize homosexuality? "Cant"...

We can do whatever the fuck we want; that's kinda America's thing. It's time to stop coddling and babying the morons who oppose gun control, who oppose health care, who oppose joining the rest of the civilized world and saying, "Right, this isn't even worth arguing over anymore. You are not swayed by people being murdered? No rational argument will ever sway you then, so we will just have to drag you kicking and screaming into the modern world.".

Guns are just as much a part of American history and society as slavery and segregation was. It took time, but we eventually have started to get that problem sorted out. This language of we "cant" change it is dangerous because it furthers the notion that Americans are both too stupid to join the rest of the modern world and reinforces the mindset of, "Why bother, because it won't happen anyways.".
“Life isn't long enough to enjoy and understand all at the same time. You have to decide which is more important." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline GrinningYMIR

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #155 on: November 21, 2017, 11:20:12 AM »
Just like we "cant" have good health care? "Cant" pass civil rights for blacks, then women? "Cant" improve our education system? "Cant" cut back on our military budget? "Cant" legalize homosexuality? "Cant"...

We can do whatever the fuck we want; that's kinda America's thing. It's time to stop coddling and babying the morons who oppose gun control, who oppose health care, who oppose joining the rest of the civilized world and saying, "Right, this isn't even worth arguing over anymore. You are not swayed by people being murdered? No rational argument will ever sway you then, so we will just have to drag you kicking and screaming into the modern world.".

Guns are just as much a part of American history and society as slavery and segregation was. It took time, but we eventually have started to get that problem sorted out. This language of we "cant" change it is dangerous because it furthers the notion that Americans are both too stupid to join the rest of the modern world and reinforces the mindset of, "Why bother, because it won't happen anyways.".

Yes yes very noble and all that good job.

Open your eyes and see if a hundred million people will readily accept the government walking in and taking away their guns without a fight, how about just a million. A million, a hundred thousand. People who are gun toting or gun owning. Thinking the government is takin away its rights and they’ll fight “tyranny”

Open your eyes for once and realize people will fight to death for guns in the us even or especially
Because they’re wrong. Not just gun nuts, but people all over the US.

And remember last time we banned something big, slavery? Started a civil war.
Are you willing to risk something, even as small
As a few people gunning down each other over it?

We can’t ban it because it’s too big. Because it’s so ingrained into our culture that people think of it as an inalienable right. And they’ll fight to the death for it even if it’s wrong.

"Human history is a litany of blood shed over differing ideals of rulership and afterlife"

Governor of the 32nd Province of the New Lunar Republic. Luna Nobis Custodit

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #156 on: November 21, 2017, 11:49:00 AM »
Banning guns completely isn't necessary. We just need to catch up with the rest of the Western world and apply some common sense laws to control the responsible sale, storing, and use of guns.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #157 on: November 21, 2017, 12:55:05 PM »
Banning guns completely isn't necessary. We just need to catch up with the rest of the Western world and apply some common sense laws to control the responsible sale, storing, and use of guns.
I've been a owner and shooter since 1965. It really pisses off the gun nuts when I say we don't need 256,000,000 guns in this country.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Baruch

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #158 on: November 21, 2017, 01:40:38 PM »
Banning guns completely isn't necessary. We just need to catch up with the rest of the Western world and apply some common sense laws to control the responsible sale, storing, and use of guns.

Fortunately Europe is being converted to Islam ... they will be quite violent ... in the future.  Euro-topia is not a reality.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #159 on: November 21, 2017, 01:45:34 PM »
Just like we "cant" have good health care? "Cant" pass civil rights for blacks, then women? "Cant" improve our education system? "Cant" cut back on our military budget? "Cant" legalize homosexuality? "Cant"...

We can do whatever the fuck we want; that's kinda America's thing. It's time to stop coddling and babying the morons who oppose gun control, who oppose health care, who oppose joining the rest of the civilized world and saying, "Right, this isn't even worth arguing over anymore. You are not swayed by people being murdered? No rational argument will ever sway you then, so we will just have to drag you kicking and screaming into the modern world.".

Guns are just as much a part of American history and society as slavery and segregation was. It took time, but we eventually have started to get that problem sorted out. This language of we "cant" change it is dangerous because it furthers the notion that Americans are both too stupid to join the rest of the modern world and reinforces the mindset of, "Why bother, because it won't happen anyways.".

But we should admit we are animals, and act accordingly.  That is called honesty, not virtue signaling.  Yes, no more slavery (just 20,000 fuckable girls).  No more genocide (is that you Libya?).  The hypocrisy is thicker than wet cement.  Retreating into a monastery, where everyone thinks alike, is sexless, under a military like discipline, doing simple manual labor ... with no families, no women, no children ... pacifist (not militant monks of Mt Hei in Japan).  That is the only small scale utopia Europeans have managed.  The world outside the monastery though ... barbaric, with actual barbarians.
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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #160 on: November 21, 2017, 01:55:47 PM »
I'm not sure where I called for the full confiscation of guns grin, but okay...
“Life isn't long enough to enjoy and understand all at the same time. You have to decide which is more important." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #161 on: November 21, 2017, 02:36:35 PM »
When people start losing their guns my thoughts and prayers will be with their loss, but that's all.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #162 on: November 21, 2017, 06:03:56 PM »
Future FEMA camp inmates.  Enjoy the showers ;-(
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