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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #165 on: November 26, 2017, 10:29:30 AM »
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I read about a recent semantics study of "bear arms" in common usage in the time the Constitution was written.  It said that "bear arms" was only in militia situations meaning holding military weapons in miltias, not hunting or personal defense.
I had occasion to read the op-ed pieces and pamphleteering of the day when doing a semester on "first responders" (Grad School) in the Antebellum US. I would agree with that study given the information you provided.

Got a "A" for that paper. Sadly, I no longer have most of my grad school work.
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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #166 on: December 19, 2017, 06:39:38 PM »
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That's less than a million people owning 132.5 million guns.

Most Americans don't own guns. Must Americans who own guns have just one. The problem isn't with "Americans", it's with ~one in 33 Americans.
Wrong, there are guns in approximately 43% of American homes.  That may mean that at least 1 family member shoots, and can/will pick up arms against a threat. 

And many of us have thousand and thousands of rounds of ammo.
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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #167 on: December 20, 2017, 02:29:21 PM »
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Wrong, there are guns in approximately 43% of American homes.  That may mean that at least 1 family member shoots, and can/will pick up arms against a threat. 

And many of us have thousand and thousands of rounds of ammo.
Wrong, as in you know fuck all about math. Most Americans don't own a gun. 43% of Americans live a home that has a gun. That doesn't mean 43% of Americans own a gun.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #168 on: December 20, 2017, 07:29:32 PM »
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That may mean that at least 1 family member shoots, and can/will pick up arms against a threat. 
What threat?

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And many of us have thousand and thousands of rounds of ammo.

Oh, that threat.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #169 on: December 20, 2017, 10:56:36 PM »
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Wrong, there are guns in approximately 43% of American homes.
I'm no statistics genius, but I'm pretty sure that both claims are not mutually exclusive; guns are owned in many homes, but some own far more than others.

Also, Gawdzilla's statistic is cited (a practice you would be wise to adopt).  On what basis do you consider it wrong?

Offline Baruch

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #170 on: December 21, 2017, 02:27:26 AM »
Competitive statistical virtue signaling by two armed thugs.
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Re: Gun Control
« Reply #171 on: December 21, 2017, 06:12:08 AM »
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I'm no statistics genius, but I'm pretty sure that both claims are not mutually exclusive; guns are owned in many homes, but some own far more than others.

Also, Gawdzilla's statistic is cited (a practice you would be wise to adopt).  On what basis do you consider it wrong?
We had a gun in our home when I was a kid. It was a single-shot .410 gauge shotgun. Five people, one gun. Most Americans have one gun or no guns. That's how you say it without being deliberately misleading.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Gun Control
« Reply #172 on: December 26, 2017, 03:08:39 AM »
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Correct. 

Thank you...  Every thing else was irrelevant.
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