Prostitution should be legalized in brothels

Started by Coveny, October 20, 2017, 05:16:15 PM

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Coveny

First off I will provide the rules for brothels as:
1. They require condoms.
2. They accept any customer.
3. They must prove they are free of STDs regularly. (monthly)
4. Each person has their own prices and list of what they are willing to do.


In 2003 Rhode Island, accidently decriminalized prostitution. The effects of this were “caused both forcible rape offenses and gonorrhea incidence to decline for the overall population. Our synthetic control model finds 824 fewer reported rape offenses (31 percent decrease) and 1,035 fewer cases of female gonorrhea (39 percent decrease) from 2004 to 2009”
http://www.nber.org/papers/w20281

This breaks down into two argument in favor of legalized prostitution.

1) Rape dropped by 824. The effects of which will affect the victim for the rest of their lives.
https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/research/mentalimpact.shtml

2) Gonorrhea dropped by 1,035. STDs are a critical health concern affecting this country.
https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/3805.pdf

3) It is hypocrisy with prostitution being illegal, while porn is legal. Whatever argument can be for or against, one can be made for the other. 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/colb.pornography/index.html?iref=allsearch

4) No one sees any problem with massages. No one sees any problem getting their hair, nails, or feet done. In all these cases, you are paying another human being to touch you. How is sex any different?

5) Freedom is being able to choose what you do with your body. Choosing to have sex with someone for money is no different.
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Munch

I've of the opinion that as long as you follow safety rules set by the place, things like this should be made legal.

Though tbh, if someone is of the mind set to rape another person, they are not going to care about the rules such as being std free or using condoms.
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PopeyesPappy

I don't have a problem with legalized prostitution. I'd like to see some more mandatory protections put in place for the service providers than the OP specifies though. Things like mandatory healthcare coverage, minimum base pay, frequent health and welfare inspections and limits on the house cut. Once a month testing for STD's sounds a little slack too. Once a week maybe.

I also don't see why it should be limited to brothels either. If somebody can get a two-year degree in neurosurgery and start performing brain surgery out of their home I don't see why they couldn't sell dick and pussy there too.
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Baruch

Prostitution today in the US mostly consists of the exploitation of 14 year old girls on the street or kidnapping of the same from their homes.  You must pay attention to what the customer base wants ... not my 90 year old mother.

On the other hand, I would be happy to have McDonald's legalize cannibalism ... we have many excess D and R apes who need productive employment ;-)  McD Burger or McR Nuggets anyone?  As long as it is government regulated of course, unless we want a self regulated business like Uber.
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Shiranu

Quote4) No one sees any problem with massages. No one sees any problem getting their hair, nails, or feet done. In all these cases, you are paying another human being to touch you. How is sex any different?

People don't normally stick their dick in you at a massage, for one...
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Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on October 20, 2017, 07:00:25 PM
People don't normally stick their dick in you at a massage, for one...

Maybe at the message parlor he goes to ...
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Don't do that.

Shiranu

Quote from: Baruch on October 20, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
Maybe at the message parlor he goes to ...

I'm going to the wrong parlors, then.
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Mike Cl

Clearly, legalized prostitution is the best way to go for all.
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Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Coveny on October 20, 2017, 05:16:15 PM
2. They accept any customer.

I think it would be better if they have the right to refuse customers. No?
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Quote from: Mr.Obvious on October 21, 2017, 02:44:23 AM
I think it would be better if they have the right to refuse customers. No?
"No shoes.  No shirt.  No service."  Well I've seen that sign in restaurants.  Those specific rules might not work as well in a brothel.

Mermaid

There is zero reason that prostitution should be illegal. And no reason people should not have sex for money wherever they choose on whatever terms they choose.
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Baruch

I don't see actual prostitution by exploited 14 year old girls as ... victimless.  If a 90 year old woman wants to sell herself ... fine ;-)  But that isn't the kind of girl who is popular.  Near pedophilia is what is popular.
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
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Blackleaf

Quote from: Baruch on October 21, 2017, 05:37:38 PM
I don't see actual prostitution by exploited 14 year old girls as ... victimless.  If a 90 year old woman wants to sell herself ... fine ;-)  But that isn't the kind of girl who is popular.  Near pedophilia is what is popular.

Your strategy in arguing against something often depends on false equivalence. Legalized prostitution would, if anything, reduce sex slavery, not increase it. You think if it were regulated, businesses would be willing to take the risk of being caught allowing an underaged girl to work for them?
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Hydra009

Quote from: Coveny on October 20, 2017, 05:16:15 PM
First off I will provide the rules for brothels as:
1. They require condoms.
2. They accept any customer.
3. They must prove they are free of STDs regularly. (monthly)
4. Each person has their own prices and list of what they are willing to do.
Agreed on everything but #2.  Some Johns are abusive.

Hydra009

Quote from: Mermaid on October 21, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
There is zero reason that prostitution should be illegal. And no reason people should not have sex for money wherever they choose on whatever terms they choose.
This.

It's essentially a service job.  Client wants X for money.  Worker supplies X in exchange for money.  As long as it's done in a safe, sane, and consensual way, there's no ethical reason why it shouldn't be done.