Author Topic: Yo!  (Read 1960 times)

Offline Cavebear

Re: Yo!
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2017, 02:24:11 AM »
Do not equate atheism and communism.  The latter is a political ideology, the other is an explicitly-stated lack of religious belief...
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Re: Yo!
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2017, 06:50:55 AM »
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Do not equate atheism and communism.  The latter is a political ideology, the other is an explicitly-stated lack of religious belief...

A clean definition.  Can I define Nazi as only German, only between 1933 and 1945?  A clear definition.  But is it true?

There is a difference between causation and correlation.  That is what you are referring to.  Atheism doesn't cause communism ... or does it?  Communism doesn't cause atheism ... or does it?  Or more likely, are they correlates to a prior condition.  And since everything is psychology, to a prior mental condition?
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Yo!
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2017, 10:30:53 AM »
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A clean definition.  Can I define Nazi as only German, only between 1933 and 1945?  A clear definition.  But is it true?

There is a difference between causation and correlation.  That is what you are referring to.  Atheism doesn't cause communism ... or does it?  Communism doesn't cause atheism ... or does it?  Or more likely, are they correlates to a prior condition.  And since everything is psychology, to a prior mental condition?

Ah, another Trumpism.  "Or does it". 
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Re: Yo!
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2017, 10:36:53 AM »
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A clean definition.  Can I define Nazi as only German, only between 1933 and 1945?  A clear definition.  But is it true?

There is a difference between causation and correlation.  That is what you are referring to.  Atheism doesn't cause communism ... or does it?  Communism doesn't cause atheism ... or does it?  Or more likely, are they correlates to a prior condition.  And since everything is psychology, to a prior mental condition?

Who led the Axis powers again? Oh yeah. A devout Catholic white supremacist.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Yo!
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2017, 10:54:37 AM »
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Who led the Axis powers again? Oh yeah. A devout Catholic white supremacist.

Two actually.  Wasn't Mussolini Hitlers model?
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Re: Yo!
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2017, 06:48:30 PM »
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Who led the Axis powers again? Oh yeah. A devout Catholic white supremacist.

So ... causation or correlation ...
All men are Nazis ...
All Whites are Nazis ...
All White men are Nazis ...
All Catholics are Nazis, but maybe only if they are devout ...
All White supremacists are Nazis ....

Seems like the logic of the SJW types.  Their litany of R-wing demonization.

How about .. Hitler was insane, and some insane people (not all) are Nazis?
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Re: Yo!
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2017, 06:49:19 PM »
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Two actually.  Wasn't Mussolini Hitlers model?

Sh .. you are making sense!  Both Mussolini and Hitler were Catholic.  So was JFK a Nazi?
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Re: Yo!
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2017, 12:54:56 AM »
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So ... causation or correlation ...
All men are Nazis ...
All Whites are Nazis ...
All White men are Nazis ...
All Catholics are Nazis, but maybe only if they are devout ...
All White supremacists are Nazis ....

Seems like the logic of the SJW types.  Their litany of R-wing demonization.

How about .. Hitler was insane, and some insane people (not all) are Nazis?

Makes sweeping generalization, cries foul when the same generalization is turned on them
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

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Re: Yo!
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2017, 03:38:58 AM »
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Makes sweeping generalization, cries foul when the same generalization is turned on them

Generalizations ... not cricket, even if you aren't British.  So your pot calling my kettle, black?
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Yo!
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2017, 05:31:42 AM »
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So ... causation or correlation ...
All men are Nazis ...
All Whites are Nazis ...
All White men are Nazis ...
All Catholics are Nazis, but maybe only if they are devout ...
All White supremacists are Nazis ....

Seems like the logic of the SJW types.  Their litany of R-wing demonization.

How about .. Hitler was insane, and some insane people (not all) are Nazis?

Not causation or correlation.  All of Europe was generally christian.  That a dictator would use that is no great surprise.  And Japan wasn't.

Hitler WAS insane.  Possibly from his agony with mustard gas in WWI and possibly from bitterness at his lack of success in German society between the wars.
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Re: Yo!
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2017, 07:02:03 AM »
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Not causation or correlation.  All of Europe was generally christian.  That a dictator would use that is no great surprise.  And Japan wasn't.

Hitler WAS insane.  Possibly from his agony with mustard gas in WWI and possibly from bitterness at his lack of success in German society between the wars.

W Europe was Christian.  They follow the EU religion now, but will be following the Muslim faith later.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Yo!
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2017, 07:14:46 AM »
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W Europe was Christian.  They follow the EU religion now, but will be following the Muslim faith later.

An false assumption on your part.  And not a very likely one.  You are like the US christian fanatics who think half the country is under sharia law already.
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Re: Yo!
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2017, 10:08:09 PM »
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An false assumption on your part.  And not a very likely one.  You are like the US christian fanatics who think half the country is under sharia law already.

No ... we will all be Hispanic surnamed and Roman Catholic, not like W Europe at all.  But then I have never disliked Mexicans ... I have my complicated reasons for that.  Sorry, your atheist fantasy won't happen, as it is the result of sociopathic tendencies ... acculturating includes accepting the religion, politics and culture of the people you are raised by and among.  Those who are defective (relative to the average) will always be a minority, they are not a trend.  However, if there is a plan to bring one billion new people into Europe ... who are not from there ... then it will change, and they won't be choosing liberalism nor atheism.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Yo!
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2017, 08:34:38 AM »
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No ... we will all be Hispanic surnamed and Roman Catholic, not like W Europe at all.  But then I have never disliked Mexicans ... I have my complicated reasons for that.  Sorry, your atheist fantasy won't happen, as it is the result of sociopathic tendencies ... acculturating includes accepting the religion, politics and culture of the people you are raised by and among.  Those who are defective (relative to the average) will always be a minority, they are not a trend.  However, if there is a plan to bring one billion new people into Europe ... who are not from there ... then it will change, and they won't be choosing liberalism nor atheism.

I expressed no atheist fantasy.  Merely 2 things.  First, that we humans are all so interconnected that "race" will eventually disappear and we will all be some light shade of tan one day.  And 2nd that religion will fade away as "the gods of the gaps" disappear to the point that even the children of the last theists accept the factual universe.

And aside from all that, Ah, Pachebal's Canon in my speakers...

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Re: Yo!
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2017, 01:14:04 PM »
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I expressed no atheist fantasy.  Merely 2 things.  First, that we humans are all so interconnected that "race" will eventually disappear and we will all be some light shade of tan one day.  And 2nd that religion will fade away as "the gods of the gaps" disappear to the point that even the children of the last theists accept the factual universe.

And aside from all that, Ah, Pachebal's Canon in my speakers...

Well, you are right about Pachebal's Canon at least ... but it can be as boring as Bolero.  Good elevator music ;-)

So ... when are you appearing as "Man Of the Future" at Tomorrowland?  Won't the bear costume scare the children?
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