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Why beliefs do not deserve respect

Started by Blackleaf, October 13, 2017, 07:46:10 PM

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Unbeliever

Ah, respect is over-rated anyway. All I ask for is civility, not respect. I don't usually care what people think of me, which is what the desire for respect is all about.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

SGOS

If someone doesn't respect you, it can tell you a lot about what THEY are like.

Munch

Quote from: SGOS on October 15, 2017, 08:15:10 PM
If someone doesn't respect you, it can tell you a lot about what THEY are like.

buuuut, what if your someone who demands respect but don't earn it?
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Shiranu

"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

pr126

#19
Quote from: Shiranu on October 15, 2017, 09:02:35 PM

Do you realize that your visual comment is racist?
I am triggered!

SGOS

Quote from: Munch on October 15, 2017, 08:20:30 PM
buuuut, what if your someone who demands respect but don't earn it?
We can make demands on others all day long, but this has little bearing on whether our demands are met.  You'll just have to suck it up like everyone else.

Shiranu

"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

fencerider

Quote from: Munch on October 15, 2017, 08:20:30 PM
buuuut, what if your someone who demands respect but don't earn it?
Are you talking about Trump, or police, or religion??? ;-)
"Do you believe in god?", is not a proper English sentence. Unless you believe that, "Do you believe in apple?", is a proper English sentence.

Cavebear

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on October 15, 2017, 11:46:07 AM
Respect is earned through deeds and how you live your life and treat others around you,  not just granted because you believe whatever it is you believe or don't believe.
When someone demands respect from me they've already lost it.

Which is why I don't respect theists much.  They are all about beliefs and superstition and not about individuals much.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on October 18, 2017, 01:06:16 AM
Which is why I don't respect theists much.  They are all about beliefs and superstition and not about individuals much.

Isn't that the very definition of bigotry ... treating individuals per stereotype?  This OP was about not giving automatic respect to ideology/theology.  But you brought your real MO into it.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on October 18, 2017, 06:57:56 AM
Isn't that the very definition of bigotry ... treating individuals per stereotype?  This OP was about not giving automatic respect to ideology/theology.  But you brought your real MO into it.

I specified it wasn't about individuals.  Can't you even READ before you post?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on October 18, 2017, 10:21:07 AM
I specified it wasn't about individuals.  Can't you even READ before you post?

OK.  I get lost in your cat litter ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

aitm

Quote from: Unbeliever on October 15, 2017, 02:26:28 PM
Ah, respect is over-rated anyway. All I ask for is civility, not respect. I don't usually care what people think of me, which is what the desire for respect is all about.

Exactly my position.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on October 19, 2017, 07:17:58 AM
OK.  I get lost in your cat litter ;-)

And where did CAT LITTER come into the discussion?  Do I have to just put you on "ignore" again to be free of your nonsense?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on October 23, 2017, 05:45:42 AM
And where did CAT LITTER come into the discussion?  Do I have to just put you on "ignore" again to be free of your nonsense?

I didn't say "dirty" cat litter, did I?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.