Author Topic: Why beliefs do not deserve respect  (Read 426 times)

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2017, 02:26:28 PM »
Ah, respect is over-rated anyway. All I ask for is civility, not respect. I don't usually care what people think of me, which is what the desire for respect is all about.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2017, 08:15:10 PM »
If someone doesn't respect you, it can tell you a lot about what THEY are like.

Offline Munch

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2017, 08:20:30 PM »
If someone doesn't respect you, it can tell you a lot about what THEY are like.

buuuut, what if your someone who demands respect but don't earn it?

Online Shiranu

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2017, 09:02:35 PM »
“Life isn't long enough to enjoy and understand all at the same time. You have to decide which is more important." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline pr126

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2017, 01:27:34 AM »
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Do you realize that your visual comment is racist?
I am triggered!
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Offline SGOS

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2017, 05:49:36 AM »
buuuut, what if your someone who demands respect but don't earn it?
We can make demands on others all day long, but this has little bearing on whether our demands are met.  You'll just have to suck it up like everyone else.

Online Shiranu

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2017, 10:15:34 AM »
Do you realize that your visual comment is racist?
I am triggered!

“Life isn't long enough to enjoy and understand all at the same time. You have to decide which is more important." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2017, 09:54:42 PM »
buuuut, what if your someone who demands respect but don't earn it?
Are you talking about Trump, or police, or religion??? ;-)
another quote from an antagonist agnostic: not expecting god to show up, but if he does we’re going to have to beat the prick up.

Offline Cavebear

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2017, 01:06:16 AM »
Respect is earned through deeds and how you live your life and treat others around you,  not just granted because you believe whatever it is you believe or don't believe.
When someone demands respect from me they've already lost it.

Which is why I don't respect theists much.  They are all about beliefs and superstition and not about individuals much.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Offline Baruch

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2017, 06:57:56 AM »
Which is why I don't respect theists much.  They are all about beliefs and superstition and not about individuals much.

Isn't that the very definition of bigotry ... treating individuals per stereotype?  This OP was about not giving automatic respect to ideology/theology.  But you brought your real MO into it.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2017, 10:21:07 AM »
Isn't that the very definition of bigotry ... treating individuals per stereotype?  This OP was about not giving automatic respect to ideology/theology.  But you brought your real MO into it.

I specified it wasn't about individuals.  Can't you even READ before you post?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Offline Baruch

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2017, 07:17:58 AM »
I specified it wasn't about individuals.  Can't you even READ before you post?

OK.  I get lost in your cat litter ;-)
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Offline aitm

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2017, 12:29:32 PM »
Ah, respect is over-rated anyway. All I ask for is civility, not respect. I don't usually care what people think of me, which is what the desire for respect is all about.

Exactly my position.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline Cavebear

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2017, 05:45:42 AM »
OK.  I get lost in your cat litter ;-)

And where did CAT LITTER come into the discussion?  Do I have to just put you on "ignore" again to be free of your nonsense?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Offline Baruch

Re: Why beliefs do not deserve respect
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2017, 10:26:50 PM »
And where did CAT LITTER come into the discussion?  Do I have to just put you on "ignore" again to be free of your nonsense?

I didn't say "dirty" cat litter, did I?
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