50 killed, 200 Injured in Las Vegas Shooting

[Hydra009]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ECYMvjU52E

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Hi, "Anti-Gunner" here, I don't think the 1911 has a place in society.

Really? If a maniac from the Society of the Boxer decided to wrap himself in yards of wet silk what would you use to stop him? .38s are ineffectual.

[Baruch]

Really? If a maniac from the Society of the Boxer decided to wrap himself in yards of wet silk what would you use to stop him? .38s are ineffectual.

Yes, the Boxer Rebellion, where the European powers, America, and Japan were all on the same evil side.  Screwing over China.  The .45 pistol was invented to stop Moro warriors on Mindanao ... our first Muslim vs American war of the 20th century.  Back then, we water-boarded prisoners just like we do today.

[Draconic Aiur]

It's not just Conservatives its Libertarians as well.

[Baruch]

It's not just Conservatives its Libertarians as well.

Libertarians are paleo-Conservatives, not neo-Conservatives.  Almost had respect for Ron Paul, but he was a fake.  I laughed my head off when Bork was cornered during confirmation, about "original intent".  My god!  What an idiot to admit to that ideology.  Usually a nominee is opaque, and then screws America after they put on the SCOTUS robe ... like Scalia.

I would lean toward Centrist Libertarian ... but the nut jobs have spoiled every label.  Some people are only fit for a one way time travel trip into the Soviet Union's glory days.  Right-wing or Left-wing, a slave is still a slave.  Some people think they can profit by being a slave or a slave master ... they are both wrong.

[Cavebear]

Libertarians are paleo-Conservatives, not neo-Conservatives.  Almost had respect for Ron Paul, but he was a fake.  I laughed my head off when Bork was cornered during confirmation, about "original intent".  My god!  What an idiot to admit to that ideology.  Usually a nominee is opaque, and then screws America after they put on the SCOTUS robe ... like Scalia.

I would lean toward Centrist Libertarian ... but the nut jobs have spoiled every label.  Some people are only fit for a one way time travel trip into the Soviet Union's glory days.  Right-wing or Left-wing, a slave is still a slave.  Some people think they can profit by being a slave or a slave master ... they are both wrong.

Ok, tell us what a Centrist-Libertarian thinks.  And how that matches your theologic views.

[Shiranu]

[Cavebear]

That puts a lot into perspective.  Thank you.

[Baruch]

Yes, the government response has been wrong, every single time.  Not a conspiracy, just stupid politicians.  Put a spork in that and call it done .. until the government bans sporks.

[Baruch]

Ok, tell us what a Centrist-Libertarian thinks.  And how that matches your theologic views.

1. Nothing in excess (R or D are extremist)
2. Choose freedom over government bureaucracy (yes, we both have served in the belly of the beast, but were you the appendix or the colon?)

What does any of that have to do with theology?  My ability to move my hand, which a rock can't do ... is free will.  But not just do anything, we are called to responsibility.  So are extremists responsible?  Didn't think so.  Are socialists wanting the people to be anything more than obedient rocks?  Didn't think so.

[Cavebear]

1. Nothing in excess (R or D are extremist)
2. Choose freedom over government bureaucracy (yes, we both have served in the belly of the beast, but were you the appendix or the colon?)

What does any of that have to do with theology?  My ability to move my hand, which a rock can't do ... is free will.  But not just do anything, we are called to responsibility.  So are extremists responsible?  Didn't think so.  Are socialists wanting the people to be anything more than obedient rocks?  Didn't think so.

You are equating Libertarianism with Centrism.  That is inaccurate.  Libertaritarian is more a point on a triangle with Libetaa and Conservative, not Republican  or Democrat.

Forive my typin, I lost my set of reading glsses and am using old ones.I can see the monitor barely. and some letters look a lot like others.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Get some cheap readers from the drug store or Wal-merde. I have set all over the house.

[Cavebear]

Get some cheap readers from the drug store or Wal-merde. I have set all over the house.

Found them in the kitchen.  But the old ones were nearly as good as the newer ones.  Just needed to lean in 6" closer.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Found them in the kitchen.  But the old ones were nearly as good as the newer ones.  Just needed to lean in 6" closer.

Get some lanyards.

[Cavebear]

Get some lanyards.

  I'm not quite a geezer yet.  Getting there, but not  Um, what were we discussing?  How's the kids.  Are there waffles?