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Offline trdsf

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #735 on: September 12, 2018, 03:40:52 PM »
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Question.  If you come straight down into a country from outer space, have you really illegally crossed a border?
Prefacing it with the obligatory I Am Not A Lawyer... no, probably not.  National borders do not extend upwards indefinitely, otherwise orbiting a satellite would be a nightmare of diplomatic negotiations.  I think the rule of thumb is that aircraft are subject to national boundaries, but spacecraft are not.  It's probably tucked away somewhere in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.

As a side note, there is a body of opinion that Eisenhower had received intelligence that the Soviets were about to launch Sputnik I, and rather than accelerate the Explorer program to try to beat them to it, he let the Soviets launch first to get a precedent for unrestricted orbital overflight.  After all, once the Russians had orbited Sputnik I and II before Explorer I launched, they couldn't complain about American satellites passing over their territory when there had been no objection from the Americans for Soviet satellites overflying theirs.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #736 on: September 12, 2018, 03:47:20 PM »
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Prefacing it with the obligatory I Am Not A Lawyer... no, probably not.  National borders do not extend upwards indefinitely, otherwise orbiting a satellite would be a nightmare of diplomatic negotiations.  I think the rule of thumb is that aircraft are subject to national boundaries, but spacecraft are not.  It's probably tucked away somewhere in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.

As a side note, there is a body of opinion that Eisenhower had received intelligence that the Soviets were about to launch Sputnik I, and rather than accelerate the Explorer program to try to beat them to it, he let the Soviets launch first to get a precedent for unrestricted orbital overflight.  After all, once the Russians had orbited Sputnik I and II before Explorer I launched, they couldn't complain about American satellites passing over their territory when there had been no objection from the Americans for Soviet satellites overflying theirs.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised.  Politic thinking at the top level is beyond me.  And beyond Eisenhower too, maybe.  But a staff member might have thought of it that way.
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Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #737 on: September 12, 2018, 08:01:14 PM »
I think the Putin/Trump agenda is the destruction of the economies of the West, with "America first" then Europe. Trump wants to punish the Western banks that stopped loaning him money and reward the Russian banks that did loan him money.
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“The federal deficit hit $895 billion in the first 11 months of fiscal 2018, an increase of $222 billion, or 32 percent, over the same period the previous year, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

The nonpartisan CBO reported that the central drivers of the increasing deficit were the Republican tax law and the bipartisan agreement to increase spending. As a result, revenue only rose 1 percent, failing to keep up with a 7 percent surge in spending, it added.”




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I'm waiting for Trump to say: "We could easily stop all the wildfires from happening just by removing all the oxygen from the atmosphere."

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #738 on: September 12, 2018, 08:19:12 PM »
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“Voters haven't embraced the tax overhaul President Donald Trump signed late last year, but one of the main architects of the bill still thinks Democrats made an error in pledging to revisit the law.

"They are running on it and it's a huge mistake because no one wants to go back to the bad old days when the economy was flat, paychecks were flat," Rep. Kevin Brady, a Texas Republican, said in an interview that aired Friday morning on CNBC. He chairs the House Ways and Means Committee, the chamber's tax writing panel.

Republicans have tried to put tax reform back to the forefront in recent days, about two months ahead of midterm elections when they will try to stop Democrats from taking a House majority. Later this month, the House GOP aims to pass a bill that would make individual tax cuts approved last year permanent and would ease rules around retirement accounts, among other proposals.

The tax law, the GOP's signature achievement of this Congress, has failed to catch on with voters the way Republicans hoped. About 37 percent of registered voters approve of the platform, versus roughly 42 percent who disapprove, according to a RealClearPolitics average of polls. Consequently, Republican candidates have not used it heavily in ads across the country, despite the insistence from House Speaker Paul Ryan and other GOP leaders that the measure is working.”



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Just more wealth care for the people who really matter to the GOP.
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I'm waiting for Trump to say: "We could easily stop all the wildfires from happening just by removing all the oxygen from the atmosphere."

Online Shiranu

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #739 on: September 12, 2018, 08:34:12 PM »
Remember the days when Trump's handling of Puerto Rico was a "big" issue?

God, the simple times. But at least we can relive those memories...

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Trump is saying that his handling of Puerto Rico was an absolute success (right after the death toll got bumped up by several thousand, with the majority of those coming from lack of aid to the island in the months following) as well as moving $10,000,000 from hurricane response and relief programs to move to ICE detention centres.

Fucking. Psychopath. If you haven't seen his remarks about 9/11 as well... give them a look. Literally right after 9/11, his first thought was, "Huh, I have the biggest building in Manhattan again! Cool!".
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Offline Baruch

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #740 on: September 12, 2018, 08:55:46 PM »
Wait until censorship goes full on in the US, with Republicans in charge.  Not so good for you or me.
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Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #741 on: September 12, 2018, 09:37:30 PM »
I think the Putin/Trump agenda is the destruction of the economies of the West, with "America first" then Europe. Trump wants to punish the Western banks that stopped loaning him money and reward the Russian banks that did loan him money.

Succinctly stated and quite possibly true.

Trump never saw any of these investigations coming to fruition, and we can only hope Mueller sees them through.

Offline Baruch

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #742 on: September 12, 2018, 09:58:50 PM »
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I think the Putin/Trump agenda is the destruction of the economies of the West, with "America first" then Europe. Trump wants to punish the Western banks that stopped loaning him money and reward the Russian banks that did loan him money.

Succinctly stated and quite possibly true.

Trump never saw any of these investigations coming to fruition, and we can only hope Mueller sees them through.

Mueller works for Satan, same as the rest of them.
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Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #743 on: September 12, 2018, 10:09:32 PM »
I did not know that.  Thanks.

Online Shiranu

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #744 on: September 14, 2018, 03:58:22 AM »
3000 dead in Puerto Rico.  --> Trump: A tremendous unsung success!

3000 dead on 9/11. --> Trump: Yeah! Now I have the tallest building in downtown Manhattan!


Dude is just a straight-up psychopath.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #745 on: September 14, 2018, 07:15:33 AM »
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3000 dead in Puerto Rico.  --> Trump: A tremendous unsung success!

3000 dead on 9/11. --> Trump: Yeah! Now I have the tallest building in downtown Manhattan!


Dude is just a straight-up psychopath.

Most Americans are, that is why they voted for two psychopaths.  Could have had Gary Johnson, but no ...

Yes, too bad Trump is trying to equal Shrub's record on Katrina.  Too bad Republicans control the weather ... so you can blame them for that.
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Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #746 on: September 14, 2018, 05:53:52 PM »
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3000 dead on 9/11. --> Trump: Yeah! Now I have the tallest building in downtown Manhattan!

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According to this, whether he "bragged" or not is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, he was definitely bragging.
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I'm waiting for Trump to say: "We could easily stop all the wildfires from happening just by removing all the oxygen from the atmosphere."

Online Shiranu

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #747 on: September 14, 2018, 06:03:24 PM »
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According to this, whether he "bragged" or not is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, he was definitely bragging.

I'll even give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he wasn't bragging... why the fuck would you still bring up your building is now the tallest?

At the absolute least it was a horrible train of thought to say out loud, even if he didn't mean it in the most remotely braggadocio of ways. But you also have to remember he is Trump, who bragged about how "unsung, amazing" his handling of Puerto Rico (that left nearly 3000 people dead) was.

So yeah, he was bragging.
“And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.” - William Gibson, "Count Zero"

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Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #748 on: September 14, 2018, 06:05:58 PM »
Yeah, according to Trump those 3000 people did not die - it was the Democrats who inflated the number just to make him look bad.

As if he needs anyone other than himself to make him look bad...
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I'm waiting for Trump to say: "We could easily stop all the wildfires from happening just by removing all the oxygen from the atmosphere."

Offline Baruch

Re: Impeach Trump????
« Reply #749 on: September 14, 2018, 06:48:03 PM »
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I'll even give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he wasn't bragging... why the fuck would you still bring up your building is now the tallest?

At the absolute least it was a horrible train of thought to say out loud, even if he didn't mean it in the most remotely braggadocio of ways. But you also have to remember he is Trump, who bragged about how "unsung, amazing" his handling of Puerto Rico (that left nearly 3000 people dead) was.

So yeah, he was bragging.

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