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Started by fencerider, September 30, 2017, 11:04:56 PM

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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on November 15, 2017, 02:10:13 AM
Republicans/former Southern Democats .. really want you down on the plantation picking cotton.  They have had enough of the Copperheads too.

While I know you mean well, you should probably study US history a bit more accurately.  Copperheads were Northerners who supported secession.  You meant "carpetbaggers".
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on November 15, 2017, 02:40:31 AM
While I know you mean well, you should probably study US history a bit more accurately.  Copperheads were Northerners who supported secession.  You meant "carpetbaggers".

Carpetbaggers were Jews, so you support Gen Grant's infamous order in Tennessee?  A Jew was Sec of War for the Confederacy, that didn't happen under Lincoln.

Yeah, the analogy was strained.  Blue dog Ds are Rs in disguise.  Copperheads were enemies of Lincoln in the N states.  The emphasis being on "enemy" within your own lines.

A R official that supports a pedophile R candidate, is like an R official of that time, who supported the Copperheads.  R pedophiles are internal enemies of the R party.  Just as D pedophiles are internal enemies of the De party.
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fencerider

you mean like the wmn that says Bill Clinton raped her in 1978?

Its a sick sick world..... (forgot the rest of that quote)

and then there’s JFK and Donald Trump

the D party for decaying
and the R party for revolting


Lincoln was a vampire slayer so of course he has a lot of enemies ;-)
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Baruch

#108
Quote from: fencerider on November 16, 2017, 01:17:53 AM
you mean like the wmn that says Bill Clinton raped her in 1978?

Its a sick sick world..... (forgot the rest of that quote)

and then there’s JFK and Donald Trump

the D party for decaying
and the R party for revolting


Lincoln was a vampire slayer so of course he has a lot of enemies ;-)

It is necessary for every politician to be an unindicted felon ... that way the CIA can control them thru blackmail.  Worked for J Edgar too.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on November 15, 2017, 07:18:04 PM
Carpetbaggers were Jews, so you support Gen Grant's infamous order in Tennessee?  A Jew was Sec of War for the Confederacy, that didn't happen under Lincoln.

Yeah, the analogy was strained.  Blue dog Ds are Rs in disguise.  Copperheads were enemies of Lincoln in the N states.  The emphasis being on "enemy" within your own lines.

A R official that supports a pedophile R candidate, is like an R official of that time, who supported the Copperheads.  R pedophiles are internal enemies of the R party.  Just as D pedophiles are internal enemies of the De party.

Carpetbaggers were any Northener who moved the the South to start a business during the Reconstruction Era about 1865-1877.  The name comes from the habit of making satchels from worn carpets (waste not, want not).  Many brought Northern industrial skills to the rather un-industrialized South and actually started businesses which improved the impoverished Southern situation and employed former Confederate soldiers and freed slaves.
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Baruch

#110
Quote from: Cavebear on November 18, 2017, 12:27:34 AM
Carpetbaggers were any Northener who moved the the South to start a business during the Reconstruction Era about 1865-1877.  The name comes from the habit of making satchels from worn carpets (waste not, want not).  Many brought Northern industrial skills to the rather un-industrialized South and actually started businesses which improved the impoverished Southern situation and employed former Confederate soldiers and freed slaves.

Wrong.  It was Jewish itinerant salesmen from the North, that created anti-Semitism (just ask Gen Grant).  They quickly forgot who their Sec of War had been.  You are repeating a stereotype from Gone With The Wind.
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Baruch

Trump election and Russia-gate predicted 2400 years ago!

“In a democracy, someone who fails to get elected to office can always console himself with the thought that there was something not quite fair about it.”
― Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on November 18, 2017, 02:08:52 AM
Wrong.  It was Jewish itinerant salesmen from the North, that created anti-Semitism (just ask Gen Grant).  They quickly forgot who their Sec of War had been.  You are repeating a stereotype from Gone With The Wind.

Your anti-Semitism is recognized.

EOL
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on November 18, 2017, 03:05:52 AM
Your anti-Semitism is recognized.

EOL

Just being honest about $&$^# Gentiles ;-)  You Yankees all think that Gone With The Wind is unedited truth.
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trdsf

More plot thickening.

Flynn's legal team has stopped coöperating with Asshole's, telling them that " they can no longer discuss the investigation into alleged Russia interference in the 2016 US election".

It is not known whether they're merely distancing themselves from the clusterfuck in the White House, negotiating a deal, or are actually coöperating with Mueller's investigation.
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Shiranu

Just because that one idiot who thinks Trump isn't racist might see it here...



I'm sure it's all coincidental.
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Baruch

#116
Quote from: trdsf on November 24, 2017, 09:26:40 PM
More plot thickening.

Flynn's legal team has stopped coöperating with Asshole's, telling them that " they can no longer discuss the investigation into alleged Russia interference in the 2016 US election".

It is not known whether they're merely distancing themselves from the clusterfuck in the White House, negotiating a deal, or are actually coöperating with Mueller's investigation.

That is true of any investigation ... you aren't supposed to do a trial by public opinion.  And suspects are supposed to cooperate with prosecution?  Really?  But yes, it would be so smart to continue to communicate with someone indicted or likely to be ... so your communications can be added to the pile of evidence ... not!

So far, what seems to be the case, is that Flynn is guilty of influence peddling with the Turkish government, over Gulen.  But if it is a CIA op, then no matter what he did, it is still legal.  Same as the CIA assassination of JFK.  They may have a show trial, but find him innocent on a technicality.  Of just not indict him.  But none of that has anything to do with Russia.  If Flynn was working for the CIA and they choose to sacrifice him, that would be a bad mistake on their part.  If Flynn wasn't working for the CIA, then he is going to jail, but probably of the country club type.  On the other hand, it might be a double cross, that Flynn was trying to get Erdogan to show his cards ... so that something can be done about Erdogan (similar to a cop posing as a drug user to bring down a drug dealer).  Gulen seems to be a billionaire crime lord, who works for the US (as does Soros).  He will probably die in US exile, but in his sleep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QseSvczllw

However ...

Gülen: "Muslims have a unique responsibility in fighting terror." ... officially, they are pacifist, support education and medical care.  Think of Chinese Communist opposition to Falun Gong in China.

And we all know that the US is behind all terrorism world-wide.  The Muslim terror in particular (Wilson's War).  So what is CIA up to with Gulen or Erdogan?  Double cross or triple cross?  I have Gulen's book on Sufi contemplation, that that may put me three-degrees of separation from Trump ;-).  Nothing radical in it.  Of course Salafists hate all Sufis, so the Saudis must hate him too.  And Erdogan is clearly a megalomaniac (wants to be Caliph of all Muslims) and proto-dictator (though not as bad as NorKs).  But that is usually the kind of ally the US prefers.
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fencerider

#117
can’t condemn Moore cause he’s as dirty as him.

They forgot about Putin. Trump still hasnt pointed any fingers at Putin.

Baruch that is usually the kind of ally the U.S. prefers: It makes the CIA’s work so much easier because wannabe dictators aren’t afraid to get their hands dirty. and if they have money the CIA gets to keep their own.
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Baruch

#118
Quote from: fencerider on November 25, 2017, 12:27:17 PM
can’t condemn Moore cause he’s as dirty as him.

They forgot about Putin. Trump still hasnt pointed any fingers at Putin.

Baruch that is usually the kind of ally the U.S. prefers: It makes the CIA’s work so much easier because wannabe dictators aren’t afraid to get their hands dirty. and if they have money the CIA gets to keep their own.

Actually Trump and Putin had an hour long conversation during or after the Vietnam regional summit ... anyone not Machiavellian is a fool.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/21/trump-putin-russia-syria-257407

I fail to see why Americans want nuclear war with Russia or China.  Is the US done messing up every other country on Earth?  Apparently not.

More on Flynn vs Turkey:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/25/michael-flynn-turkey-215865

The Deep State is not of one mind, but a coalition of competing interests.  Pro and anti-military coup, pro and anti-Gulen, pro and anti-Erdogan.  America is a cheap whore, for sale to everyone.  Turkey has been manipulated into genocidal paranoia before, in 1915.  Internal dissidents were blamed for Turkish military failures ... Armenians and Kurds and Greeks ... genocide was the result.
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Nonsensei

Trump would need to actually break a law in order to be impeached. Unfortunately, not helping PR enough is not a criminal act nor is not being aware that PR inhabitants are U.S. citizens.

I am similarly not convinced that Trump had direct knowledge of any collusion with Russia because there's no reason for him to. He has people who would handle that sort of thing in his campaign and, indeed, what we are seeing is the people in his campaign getting nabbed by investigations but not a single thing solidly tying him to the collusion. An even moderately competent scheme would have him totally insulated from the wrongdoing.

The best we can hope from this investigation is that Trump is politically gutted by having a ton of highly placed people in his campaign thrown in jail for collusion. On the other hand, the rules of sanity don't really apply to Trump. He makes baseless assertions, and then when he is confronted with facts that prove his assertion wrong, he just makes up more assertions to discredit those facts. This got him into the White House so he would use it here.

I'm sure no matter how strong the evidence is he will just label it a liberal smear campaign and at least 30% of voters will believe him.
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All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on