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Impeach Trump????

Started by fencerider, September 30, 2017, 11:04:56 PM

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Unbeliever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS8k93rbJjI



Quote‘The president failed every criterion for rational and reality-based decision-making capacity.’ â€" Here’s what top psychiatrists learned about Trump’s mental state from the Mueller report.

Dr. Brandy Lee: My name is Dr. Bandy Lee. I’m a forensic psychiatrist at Yale School of Medicine. A forensic psychiatrist does evaluations for the courts and testifies before legal or governmental bodies. My views are my own, although I do represent the World Mental Health Coalition as its president.

My colleagues and I assessed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report from a mental health perspective.

Our assessment is definitive.

Our recommendations were, first and foremost, to remove Mr. Trump from access to nuclear weapons and war-making powers.

We could offer many more, but given the urgency, we decided to focus on the two most important.

The instability and impulsivity that led us to the brink of war with Iran should illustrate the importance of mental capacity in a president, as we describe.

His actions are exactly what we would predict from an individual who lacks mental capacity.

Much of this may have been preventable if we had regular fitness-for-duty tests for presidents and vice presidents before they even take office.

All military personnel who handle nuclear weapons must pass rigorous psychological testing before they assume their duties, and must renew it every year.

Yet the person who commands nuclear weapons does not. What we performed was a mental capacity evaluation. It tests function, not diagnosis, and in this case the ability of someone to make sound decisions free of impulsivity, recklessness, paranoia, and false beliefs.

To demonstrate mental capacity, one has to be able to take in information and advice; to appreciate and make flexible use of that information; to consider consequences based on rational, reality-based, and reliable thinking without undue interference from impulsivity, conspiracy theories, emotional needs, or fluctuating inconsistency; and to refrain from behavior that places oneself or others in danger.

Mr. Trump showed enough evidence to both allies and opponents, as well as in his incitement to violence in public, that he did not possess these abilities.

Our work is not about Mr. Trump, who may not be a danger as a private citizen, but about protecting society against the powers of the presidency in a person who has not demonstrated the ability to handle them.

As the evidence was overwhelming, and since outside perspectives are more important in a functional exam than a personal interview, we did not feel we needed one.

The wealth and quality of the report’s content made this possible.

In fact, we had more and better data, under sworn testimony, than we have ever had in our usual practice.

Still, we wished to offer the president the opportunity to present for an exam if he believed himself fit, and we asked him to give us an answer within three weeks.

While his staff let us know that our request was received, there has been no response about a personal exam.

Hence, we proceeded with our conclusion and recommendations.

A capacity evaluation is different from a diagnostic exam for the purpose of treating a patient.

A diagnosis has nothing to do with a person’s ability to function in a job.

Many individuals with diagnoses of mental illness get the help they need and function perfectly well at work.

We are also not interested in a diagnosis because the president is not our patient.

Our primary responsibility is to protect public health and safety, as our professional ethics require.

Capacity evaluations are usually performed for employers, not patients, and the employers in the case of a president are the people.

Our findings also certify the observations of our public-service book, “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President.”

We predicted two years ago that Mr. Trump would grow worse under the pressures and the powers of the presidency.

Having a president who lacks capacity is like having a captain who is asleep at the wheelâ€"only worse, since many people will not recognize that he is asleep.
God Not Found
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josephpalazzo

Too late for that. Trump has reduced the efficiency of the FBI, CIA, the army, the GOP, the media, the courts so that he is in  position to do anything he pleases. The only thing that can bring him down is if his supporters defect in huge numbers, which isn't happening - the latest polls show his approval rate is at 44%.

Unbeliever

That's about 145 million people that approve of Trump. I can't understand how that many people could be so enamored of the guy. I suspect he'll get his second term, but I sure hope I'm wrong.
God Not Found
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on July 09, 2019, 03:29:42 PM
That's about 145 million people that approve of Trump. I can't understand how that many people could be so enamored of the guy. I suspect he'll get his second term, but I sure hope I'm wrong.

Still not enamored.  Still disgusted by Democrats.  Ross Perot died today.  One guy I didn't vote for, that I wished I had (in 92).
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josephpalazzo

145 million people that approve of Trump??? Heck there are still 2.2 billions who believe Jesus resurrected...

Baruch

Quote from: josephpalazzo on July 09, 2019, 03:54:29 PM
145 million people that approve of Trump??? Heck there are still 2.2 billions who believe Jesus resurrected...

And every person who gets a lotto ticket, thinks they are a winner ;-)
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Unbeliever

Quote from: Baruch on July 09, 2019, 03:49:15 PM
Still not enamored.  Still disgusted by Democrats.  Ross Perot died today.  One guy I didn't vote for, that I wished I had (in 92).
The only reason anyone even knows of Perot is because he ran for president once, but there was a giant sucking sound, and he lost.
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on July 09, 2019, 03:59:22 PM
The only reason anyone even knows of Perot is because he ran for president once, but there was a giant sucking sound, and he lost.

The Deep State threatened his daughter so he pulled out in August? before the 92 election.  They wanted Big Cigar (aka Bill Clinton).  Recruited to Bohemian Grove while on Rhodes Scholarship.  They prefer politicians who can be blackmailed.

You have to be sociopath to want the WH job.  I respected what he did for his employees, in Iran, during their 79 revolution.  I nearly got employed by him once, but I didn't have the right stuff.  His second computer consulting company (the first was EDS).
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josephpalazzo

The latest spat between Trump and the British ambassador must have Putin rolling on the floor, laughing his heart out. Yet the latest ABC/Wash post polling has Trump at 47% approval rating. The Brits have two impossible choices: stand up for its ambassador and risk further deterioration; or fire him, appearing to kowtow to the whims of a foreign leader. Is this the end of the special relationship between the US and the UK?

Unbeliever

Once again, we'll just have to wait and see. I've said that more in the last few years than in my whole previous life!
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Baruch

#2080
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 09, 2019, 08:03:40 PM
Once again, we'll just have to wait and see. I've said that more in the last few years than in my whole previous life!

Joe ... no, bend over and let the Brits take us in the ass?  The ambassador got ... leaked.  His private opinions made untenable.  If kept private, ambassadors can say what they like.  Not impressed with his pro-Dem POV though, he got here in Obama's time.  Should be made British ambassador to California ;-)

There is a special relationship, but it is between MI6/CIA, GCHQ/NSA, MI5/FBI.

Joe Kennedy Sr, as US ambassador to GB in 1940 said, the British are thru, don't back them, the Germans will occupy them for sure.  FDR had to fire him.  Meanwhile JFK was bedding a German agent, and had to be exiled to the S Pacific, where he was lucky enough to be run over by a Japanese warship, and survive it.
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Unbeliever

Yeah, right-wingers only care about their own free speech.

I really hope Trump gets tangled up in the Epstein saga, and actually gets prosecuted for whatever he's done with Epstein's victims.
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on July 09, 2019, 08:34:07 PM
Yeah, right-wingers only care about their own free speech.

I really hope Trump gets tangled up in the Epstein saga, and actually gets prosecuted for whatever he's done with Epstein's victims.

Left-wingers only care about their party cadre and the Communist Manifesto.

Hard to say.  Bill Clinton definitely involved.  You want to see him hang?  This was all done under CIA sponsorship (blackmail).  Nobody is going to jail.
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