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Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« on: February 14, 2013, 07:46:12 PM »
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Good job, Illinois.

Offline The Skeletal Atheist

Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 08:08:10 PM »
What a great fucking Valentine! Awesome!
Some people need to be beaten with a smart stick.

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Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 07:36:17 AM »
Awesome.

I have to comment on some stuff in this article.

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"We're knocking down one of the basic foundations of society," Bivins said.

Sometimes knocking down basic foundations of society is a necessity when that society has been wrong for so long. I'm sure people said things of a similar nature when they abolished slavery and again when they finally let blacks use the same freaking drinking fountain, or when they let women vote.

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"We are doing it on the basis of emotion and the needs of citizens who actively vote," said Haine. He complained the bill falls short of protecting churches from being forced to engage in what they view as "sacrilegious."

I highly doubt that this is going to force churches that don't want to perform gay marriages to perform said unions. Besides, if a church out there has some anti-gay stance and makes it known I highly doubt any couple would get married there, unless they just want to screw with people, which is always fun.

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Lashing out at Catholics and other church officials that strongly opposed the legislation, Sandoval said, "our religious leaders have failed us."

That's not the only way they've failed you, but that's something for other topics.
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Offline Mathias

Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 08:03:15 AM »
If not for that "big brother is in heaven" (which is not anywhere obvious!) This fake moralism, all prejudice and violence that has already generated, would be infinitely smaller.
"There is no logic in the existence of any god".
 Myself.

Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 09:44:25 AM »
Quote from: "The Skeletal Atheist"
What a great fucking Valentine! Awesome!

Yes.  Most excellent!!
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Offline SGOS

Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 10:08:07 AM »
Wow, I had heard nothing about this coming in Illiniois.  It seems like an upheaval in society is finally taking place, like we are close to the point of critical mass.  Up until a year ago, it seemed like gays were losing one battle after another.  These liberal states are still a minority, but it feels like definate change.
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Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 10:36:20 AM »
I posted a thread about it right before the forum maintenance started that should be over in the archive. There's something like 5 other states with legislation about it coming soon, including my home state which currently has civil unions. I think you're absolutely right about critical mass, though the churchies are still going to fight it tooth and nail. The ball is rolling down the hill, and there's no stopping it at this point.
"When you landed on the moon, that was the point when God should have come up and said hello. Because if you invent some creatures and you put them on the blue one and they make it to the grey one, then you fucking turn up and say, 'Well done.' It's just a polite thing to do." - Eddie Izzard

Offline Colanth

Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 08:43:28 PM »
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Sen. Dale Righter, R-Mattoon, said the changes represent a "danger" because it will "abrogate the mission of the church." He contended church officials who fear what will happen because of the law will pull back their outreach efforts.

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Since when is the State in the business of supporting "the mission of the church"?  And how can a law "do away with" (abrogate) what the church considers to be its mission?  If the church can't consider something to be its mission without a law supporting that to be its mission, that church is a pretty poor church.
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Offline The Skeletal Atheist

Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2013, 09:34:56 PM »
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I posted a thread about it right before the forum maintenance started that should be over in the archive. There's something like 5 other states with legislation about it coming soon, including my home state which currently has civil unions. I think you're absolutely right about critical mass, though the churchies are still going to fight it tooth and nail. The ball is rolling down the hill, and there's no stopping it at this point.
Yeah, we're definitely winning. The only thing that would stop us now is if our progress got so good that apathy set in before we've completely won this. If even one state has discriminatory marriage laws, then we still need to fight like hell.
Some people need to be beaten with a smart stick.

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Kein Mitlied F�r Die Mehrheit!

Offline Thumpalumpacus

Re: Illinois Senate approves gay marriage
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2013, 12:30:08 AM »
Good stuff.  Slowly but surely, the dike is crumbling.
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