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Offline pr126 (OP)

The European-Arab Dialog
« on: September 29, 2017, 12:49:44 AM »
The European-Arab Dialog

It has been planned, agreed, signed decades ago in secret with the Arabs.
Selling Europe for oil, in exchange for millions of migrants and Islamisation. 

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Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 12:58:49 AM »
Islam is a cancer. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad that the media has convinced people much like myself - militant, anti-theist atheists - that islam must be protected, and that it's actually peaceful.


Offline Munch

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 05:26:37 AM »
Response A: This is anti immigrant propaganda

Response B: This was years ago so it doesn't matter anymore

Response C: pr is a horrible person

Response D: all of the above

Offline Baruch

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 07:06:31 AM »
Islam is a cancer. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad that the media has convinced people much like myself - militant, anti-theist atheists - that islam must be protected, and that it's actually peaceful.

The Leftist traitors are just as horrible as the Rightist traitors.
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Offline Munch

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 07:43:49 AM »
Islam is a cancer. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad that the media has convinced people much like myself - militant, anti-theist atheists - that islam must be protected, and that it's actually peaceful.

that just stems from the fact people of a certain political standard can't separate the people from the religion, if you insult religion your insulting people according to them. And given this is an atheist forum where we see cults like Christianity insulted all the time its even more surprising when certain people get all defensive if you insult islam.

perhaps its due to Christianity no longer being a theocracy in the west so it doesn't have the kind of ties islam does to its people in the middle east, but anyone would common sense should be able to at least understand what such a theocracy does to people in those regions, and why taking the piss out of islam isn't insulting people, just what they believe. 

Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 09:02:30 AM »
Munch wrote:
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That just stems from the fact people of a certain political standard can't separate the people from the religion, if you insult religion your insulting people according to them. And given this is an atheist forum where we see cults like Christianity insulted all the time its even more surprising when certain people get all defensive if you insult islam.
Some people, (SJW, virtue signallers) are looking at the world through the lens of oppressors and oppressed.
For them, Muslims are one of the oppressed people.

White males are the oppressors, everyone else is the oppressed.
Marxist thinking.

The fact that Islam is a totalitarian, fascist, supremacist, evil ideology for them is immaterial.
Gender apartheid, oppression of women, FGM, forced child marriage, pathological hatred for everything non-Muslim, excessive violence is also overlooked lest we appear racist, intolerant, and Islamophobic.

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Offline SGOS

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 09:49:32 AM »
I think most everyone here puts Islam and Christianity in the same category of religious fantasy, and I'm not sure who here would defend Islam but attack Christianity.  In my mind there is no defense for either one until a god makes himself known to all and lays out his demands.  If such a god turns out to be the Allah, mankind would have no alterative but to torture and kill Christians, Jews, and Hindus.  If the real god turns out to be the Yahweh, mankind would have no alternative but to quit baking cakes for gay people.  If either one turns out to be the real god, religious freedom comes to an end.  It already has for many Christians and Muslims who claim to have ascertained truths that have only been divined by the chosen.

Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 10:01:18 AM »
They are not defending Islam per se.
No, it is the oppressed Muslims they are defending. (ask Shiranu.)

Muslims cannot help belonging to a vile totalitarian political religion.
They are not responsible for what is in the Quran. Not responsible for a lifetime of brainwashing.

They need our help and understanding.

#NOTALLMUSLIMS




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Offline SGOS

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 10:27:15 AM »
They are not defending Islam per se.
No, it is the oppressed Muslims they are defending. (ask Shiranu.)

Muslims cannot help belonging to a vile totalitarian political religion.
They are not responsible for what is in the Quran. Not responsible for a lifetime of brainwashing.

They need our help and understanding.

#NOTALLMUSLIMS
Yeah, I've been aware of the Muslims/Not all Muslims 'catch 22.'  Civility applauds inviting strangers into your home, and many Muslims are no more than strangers.  But while some will accept your food and shelter and repay you with gratitude, some are also predisposed to approve of your murder or your subjugation as useful slaves.  So how do you decide what to do?  It becomes a problem, but who is blowing the problem out of proportion, or is there no problem at all?
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Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 10:55:47 AM »
There are serious problems here in Europe. The mainstream media doesn't report it.
So far in the USA is not noticeable because the Muslims are less than 1%.
Lots of videos on Youtube to demonstrate the problems.


A video on immigration: Starts at 3:13






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Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 12:03:42 PM »
Islam is a cancer. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad that the media has convinced people much like myself - militant, anti-theist atheists - that islam must be protected, and that it's actually peaceful.
Meh, not much worse than Christianity these days. Only difference is the extremists in Islam got a head-start this time around.

Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 12:35:10 PM »
Hijiri Byakuren wrote:
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Meh, not much worse than Christianity these days. Only difference is the extremists in Islam got a head-start this time around.
Until it comes to your street.

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Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2017, 11:17:47 PM »
New World Order: Muslims to be majority in Europe within two generations
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Within 40 years, given current demographic trends, the white population in France and the rest of old Europe will recede, creating a Muslim majority, a French researcher says.
Charles Gave, an economist, fund manager and political commentator, published his conclusions this month on the webpage of his think tank, Institute des Libertes. He writes of the “disappearance of the European populations” as native populations shrink and Muslims continue to exhibit a robust fertility rate.
Mr. Gave, president of Gavekal Research, acknowledges that his decidedly unpolitically correct view may bring him scorn and possibly censorship. The political left generally protects Islam from criticism. In the U.S., President Obama consistently defended Islam and mocked Christians for their criticism.
The paper, titled “The White Plague,” is dangerous, Mr. Gave said, “for my personal respectability and my chance to be heard in our beautiful democracy.”
The financier draws his conclusion from demographics. He assesses France’s white, or native, birthrate at 1.4 children per woman, compared with a Muslim rate of 3.4 to 4 children. France’s population today is 67 million. Unlike the U.S., France does not conduct a census on ethnic origin, but based on outside polling, some researchers, including Mr. Gave, believe the French population is already 10 percent Muslim, with 6.7 million people.

France’s official birthrate is 1.9 per woman, but Mr. Gave’s calculations put the native rate at 1.4. Overall, the European birthrate is a low 1.6 per woman.
Mr. Gave extrapolates those numbers, a declining white population and a growing Muslim population, and concludes that France will have a Muslim majority by 2057.

Read:  Muslims (political Islam) in charge of UK and France nuclear armaments.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2017, 11:29:26 PM »
I'm not sure when 10% constituted a majority, but sounds good. You also have to consider that 10% includes Turkey, Albania, and the other traditional Muslim-European regions... but don't do that, because that makes the whole scary narrative a little less impressive.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/muslim-population-growth-christians-religion-pew

Also interesting that these countries that are apparently on the edge of falling have the highest rates of happiness, highest rates of standard of living and highest rates of approval for Muslims. Funny how these borderline war zones that will have Sharaih law fully implemented and Western culture fully demolished and any day now seem to be the most prosperous and happy populations, with those numbers rising.

It's almost like random bloggers and fear-mongerers in the U.K. and U.S. don't know shit about countries they have never been to. Or maybe the media has just managed to convince how ever many hundred million that everything is okay when it's not. Which one seems more likely...
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Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: The European-Arab Dialog
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2017, 11:39:53 PM »
Submission
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Submission. That’s what the word “Islam” means. Muslims must submit to Allah, and the rest of the world must eventually submit to Islam. Submission does not necessarily require conversion, but it does require that one acknowledge the superiority of Islam, pay the jizya tax, and, in general, keep one’s head down.

Europe is currently in the process of submitting to Islam, and America also seems destined to eventually submit. If you have young children or grandchildren, it’s likely that they will have to adapt at some point to living in a Muslim-dominated society. It won’t necessarily be a Muslim-majority society because, as history testifies, Muslims don’t need a majority in order to successfully take control of non-Muslim societies.

If and when Islam persuades America to submit, it most probably won’t be through force of arms. The civilizational struggle in which we are now engaged is primarily a culture war. America used to be good at cultural warfare because America once had cultural confidence. The Cold War was in large part a cultural war, and America won it because it didn’t have qualms about demonstrating the superiority of the American way to the Soviet way.

But times change. These days, many Americans would rather shred their culture than spread it. Cultural shame rather than cultural pride rules the day. And, not surprisingly, people who are ashamed of their culture can’t be counted on to defend it. Those who are anxious to pull down statues of Washington, Jefferson, and Columbus are unlikely to put up much resistance to Islam’s cultural aggression. Instead, they will be disposed to facilitate it.

Islam, on the other hand, is full of new-found cultural pride. After the defeat of the Russians in Afghanistan, the overthrow of the Shah in Iran, and the toppling of the Twin Towers, Muslims could once again believe that Allah had destined them to subjugate the world to Islam. At the same time that Americans began to doubt their own cultural heritage, Islam undertook a remarkable campaign to export its ideology to the rest of the world. Enabled by massive oil revenues, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States funded the building of mosques and madrassas all over the world. While America was investing heavily in new weapons systems, the Gulf States were placing their bets on a weaponized religious system.

And there’s the rub. Buoyed by the initial successes in Iraq and Afghanistan, Americans began to think of the war against jihad as primarily a military affair. In the process of defeating the enemy on the battlefield, we lost sight of the cultural side of the struggle. But Islamists stayed focused on the larger picture. While we were winning the armed battles in Afghanistan and Iraq, the cultural jihadists were winning battle after battle on the culture front.

Indeed, most of the Islamist victories came without a struggle. Key cultural institution in the West simply acquiesced to whatever it was that the Islamists wanted. Hijabs in the workplace? Diversity demands it. Prayer breaks for Muslim employees? Well, no more than five a day. Islam-friendly curriculums in K-through grad-school? Think of it as affirmative action for years of neglect. More Muslim immigrants? It would be against our values to say no.

A culture war can only be fought by cultural institutions—schools, churches, political and civic organizations, and so on. As things stand, however, none of our cultural institutions have shown much evidence that they are equipped to fight a culture war with cultural jihadists. The chief reason this is so is that most of these institutions are still fighting the last culture war—the civil rights struggle and the concomitant war against intolerance, racism, and bigotry. This “old-war” mentality makes it nearly impossible for our cultural and civic leaders to resist Islamization. Because so many Americans still live mentally in a time when intolerance was considered the greatest evil, they have difficulty understanding that an indiscriminate tolerance can father just as many sins.

One way of grasping the vulnerability of our society to Islamization is to ask “Who’s going to stop it?” Where, exactly, are the forces of resistance?

The university? American universities are bastions of political correctness and mandatory tolerance. Most of them are already quite sympathetic to the Islamic point of view. A combination of intimidation (from both Muslim and leftist groups), Saudi money, and multicultural ideology has ensured that when push comes to shove, the universities will line up with the Islamist camp. If present trends continue, American universities will fold to Islam just as German universities once folded to the Nazis.

The media? The media is still trying to find a motive for the 9-11 attack. That’s because it still won’t make the connection between Islamic terror and Islamic belief. In general, media people see it as their duty to put the best possible face on all things Islamic. Scratch the media as a source of resistance.

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Why are the counter-jihad sites being shut down? Because they supposedly are “intolerant” and “racist.” Here we come back to the “old-war” mentality. The corporations, the schools, the churches, and the media are ready to do battle with racists, sexists, homophobes, Islamophobes, and transgenderphobes, but they lack the mindset that would allow them to resist the long march through the institutions being conducted by determined and skillful cultural jihadists. In short, their energies are focused on evils that have long been in retreat or on non-existent evils (transgenderphobia, etc.). Meanwhile, the much larger threat posed by Islam draws ever closer.

The people who might be expected to fight this new culture war are scarcely aware of its existence. They are too busy championing the cause of newly invented “civil rights.” Fifty years ago they would have been on the cutting edge, now they are on the edge of irrelevancy.

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