Marcus Tullius Cicero on... Donald Trump?

[Cavebear]

No, YOU show ME where trump defends white supremacy and national socialism.


What you're not seeing here is all the claims you just levied against him are inherently subjective. He's not on your team, so of course everything he does is 'horrible', 'sexist', and 'racist.'

I discuss tangible things. When it comes to politics, tangible things come in the form of policies. I'm not going to sit here and entertain your subjective interpretation of politicians characters.

"President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville on Tuesday, saying they included “some very fine people,” ?

Your denial is kind of scary.

[Gilgamesh]

"President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville on Tuesday, saying they included “some very fine people,” ?

Your denial is kind of scary.

You are lying out your ass.

He did not say that white supremacists consists of some very fine people. He said that not everybody who were at the chorlottesville protests were white supremacists and neo nazi's (which is a fact - they weren't.) Immediately following that he added that there were "some very fine people on both sides."

[Baruch]

You are lying out your ass.

He did not say that white supremacists consists of some very fine people. He said that not everybody who were at the chorlottesville protests were white supremacists and neo nazi's (which is a fact - they weren't.) Immediately following that he added that there were "some very fine people on both sides."

In B & W world that isn't PC.  The proper response would have gone on one of those human hunting billionaire hunts, where skinheads are what's for supper.

Personally I think he was wrong.  They were stupid, on both sides.  Stay away from demonstrations.

[Shiranu]

You are lying out your ass.

He did not say that white supremacists consists of some very fine people. He said that not everybody who were at the chorlottesville protests were white supremacists and neo nazi's (which is a fact - they weren't.) Immediately following that he added that there were "some very fine people on both sides."

Your right, they were good people who just happened to join Neo Nazis and white supremacists in protesting.

You know, just normal good people things. You see a Nazi protesting, and you just can't help but jump in, it's the right thing to do. And I mean... they were protesting the removal of statues honouring people who fought and died to protect slavery and tear the United States apart. Any good person would clearly take a stand against that.

Hands down, you are the most full of shit person I have ever met here, and that is saying a lot.

[Gilgamesh]

Hands down, you are the most full of shit person I have ever met here, and that is saying a lot.

You say, immediately following a sarcastic paraphrase you constructed, instead of actually addressing what I said.

Bravo. Max level irony achieved.

[Mike Cl]

You say, immediately following a sarcastic paraphrase you constructed, instead of actually addressing what I said.

Bravo. Max level irony achieved.

Oh, the irony--the irony!

[Shiranu]

You say, immediately following a sarcastic paraphrase you constructed, instead of actually addressing what I said.

Bravo. Max level irony achieved.

Except that sarcasm literally addressed what I quoted from you. You are saying good people joined the Nazis in protesting the removal of honouring racism and slavery, I contended that good people don't see Nazis and Klansmen protesting and say, "Well golly gee, I better join them fine people!"'.

Get your head out of your ass.

[Gilgamesh]

Except that sarcasm literally addressed what I quoted from you. You are saying good people joined the Nazis in protesting the removal of honouring racism and slavery,

Blatant lie. I just dispelled a lie which claimed TRUMP said something he didn't. Refuting a lie about someone else and replacing it with what they actually said isn't the same as me agreeing with what they actually said.

[Mike Cl]

Blatant lie. I just dispelled a lie which claimed TRUMP said something he didn't. Refuting a lie about someone else and replacing it with what they actually said isn't the same as me agreeing with what they actually said.

Well, being a Trumpie, you are well versed in lying; your fearless leader can't go a day with uttering a few.  Apparently you down them all, hook, line and sinker.

[Gilgamesh]

Well, being a Trumpie, you are well versed in lying; your fearless leader can't go a day with uttering a few.  Apparently you down them all, hook, line and sinker.

Right.

Look, add something relevant to the conversation for once. People like you are exactly why I insist on taking debate to 1 on 1. You clutter the boards up with irrelevant garbage which is just virtue signaling to the majority, "Hey, everybody, I don't agree with this minority opinion - now, I can't refute it, but I still want you guys to know I don't like it!"

You are an anti-intellectual.

[fencerider]

show ME where trump defends white supremacy and national socialism.

When Trump said there were good people on both sides.

When Trump goes on the stump and says everybody should be kissin the asses of the police after they have been murdering black people in cold-blood.

just to start....

[Gilgamesh]

When Trump said there were good people on both sides.

Read the last 8 posts.

When Trump goes on the stump and says everybody should be kissin the asses of the police after they have been murdering black people in cold-blood.

You're gonna' have to offer up something tangible. I don't accept paraphrases, and I damn-sure don't accept blatantly slanted misrepresentations. What has Trump ACTUALLY said - and cite the exact quote - that you take issue with, regarding police officers.

Most police officers are good people; Some are good people who, despite being good, shouldn't have the job on the basis that they don't deal with fucked up situations well; and finally, some are bad people.

[Baruch]

Except that sarcasm literally addressed what I quoted from you. You are saying good people joined the Nazis in protesting the removal of honouring racism and slavery, I contended that good people don't see Nazis and Klansmen protesting and say, "Well golly gee, I better join them fine people!"'.

Get your head out of your ass.

To be a puritan, you will have to destroy the US ... and every other country.  They all suck ... what planet will you escape to?

[Baruch]

Read the last 8 posts.
You're gonna' have to offer up something tangible. I don't accept paraphrases, and I damn-sure don't accept blatantly slanted misrepresentations. What has Trump ACTUALLY said - and cite the exact quote - that you take issue with, regarding police officers.

Most police officers are good people; Some are good people who, despite being good, shouldn't have the job on the basis that they don't deal with fucked up situations well; and finally, some are bad people.

I don't support Trump.  If you want a 1-1 with me, I am game, at some available time (like pick a time Sat or Sun EST).  Just actual quotes by real people, no virtue signaling, no projecting the anti-Christ on anyone.  IM me.  But can our clown-car associates wait until we are done, to comment?  I doubt it.

[Mike Cl]

Right.

Look, add something relevant to the conversation for once. People like you are exactly why I insist on taking debate to 1 on 1. You clutter the boards up with irrelevant garbage which is just virtue signaling to the majority, "Hey, everybody, I don't agree with this minority opinion - now, I can't refute it, but I still want you guys to know I don't like it!"

You are an anti-intellectual.

Ya got me!  Your intellect is just too much for my puny non-intellect.  You trumpies just know what's up!