Author Topic: God is Imaginary  (Read 331 times)

Offline Cavebear

Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2017, 06:17:31 AM »
Perhaps.  But if you hate Populism, you must love Elitism.  And you will burn in Hell, sorry.

Not respecting William James Byran's unsensible gold standard claptrap views is not an argument against populism.  Other politicians were anti- gold standard but otherwise populist.

I am not elitist.  The only thing 1%s mean to me is $3000 bottles of champagne (like Trump's lawyers were caught drinking this week) and utter waste.  If you can't control your own spending, you sure won't care about MY tax dollars.

Elitist?  I laugh at you while eating my dinner of pork stew drinking half my $10 1.5 liter bottle of Zinfandel!

Which is very decent, BTW!
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Online Baruch

Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2017, 10:04:30 PM »
So you disagree with him on his support for the Silver Mining Subsidy that existed from the early 1870s until the early 1890s.  Are you against the Grange as it existed in the 1890s?  Or do you disagree with the view that the gold standard at that time, was a conspiracy by the British Empire and against American interests?

I think it is true, regardless of the money situation, that without the farmers, all you city folks are dead.  But the battle was lost, farmers are the bitch of the city folk, until the city folk kill all the farmers, and wonder where the food went to.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2017, 04:57:20 AM »
So you disagree with him on his support for the Silver Mining Subsidy that existed from the early 1870s until the early 1890s.  Are you against the Grange as it existed in the 1890s?  Or do you disagree with the view that the gold standard at that time, was a conspiracy by the British Empire and against American interests?

I think it is true, regardless of the money situation, that without the farmers, all you city folks are dead.  But the battle was lost, farmers are the bitch of the city folk, until the city folk kill all the farmers, and wonder where the food went to.
 

Going off the gold standard would have severely reduced US trade with Europe.  "According to rhetorical historian William Harpine in his study of the rhetoric of the 1896 campaign, "Bryan's speech cast a net for the true believers, but only for the true believers."

Bensel said "In a very real sense, adoption of the silver plank in the platform was akin to a millennial expectation that the "laws of economics" would henceforth be suspended and that the silver men could simply "will" that silver and gold would, in fact, trade on financial markets at a ratio of sixteen to one."

The fluctuations of the silver market would have caused more harm than good to US farmers in the following years.

The laws of economics do not yield to political populism then or now.  The Silver argument was Fool's Gold and has been historicall refuted.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Online Baruch

Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2017, 03:27:07 PM »
 

Going off the gold standard would have severely reduced US trade with Europe.  "According to rhetorical historian William Harpine in his study of the rhetoric of the 1896 campaign, "Bryan's speech cast a net for the true believers, but only for the true believers."

Bensel said "In a very real sense, adoption of the silver plank in the platform was akin to a millennial expectation that the "laws of economics" would henceforth be suspended and that the silver men could simply "will" that silver and gold would, in fact, trade on financial markets at a ratio of sixteen to one."

The fluctuations of the silver market would have caused more harm than good to US farmers in the following years.

The laws of economics do not yield to political populism then or now.  The Silver argument was Fool's Gold and has been historicall refuted.

So the one and only component of the then GDP that mattered was foreign trade, or trade with the British Empire?  Really?  Or was the lobby community supporting that decision just better funded than the lobby community supporting the alternatives?  In what way has lobbying changed? (rhetorical).

I happen to agree that Free Silver was a subsidy for certain sectors of the economy.  That is how the Feds have been interfering in commerce since before the Civil War.  One of the objections of the South to the North was because of that kind of economic extraction (NYC banks).  The NYC banks are still sucking us dry.

There is only one economic law (given business and government interference) ... F the other guy before he F's you.  And we do, though it is particularly good strategy to use the Feds or States as your bitch in Crony Capitalism (the game, children not allowed).
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