Author Topic: Chaos in Nature  (Read 259 times)

Offline Baruch (OP)

Chaos in Nature
« on: September 03, 2017, 11:07:21 PM »


Old Chaos Theory program, but with interviews with original researchers ... and about physical things, not about the chaos of economics or other man-made events.

This is why I consider nature to be irrational, though the irrationality of human beings is of an even higher order.  Irrationality simply means not numbers like 2/3 but like sqrt (2) or Pi.  Most of mathematics is irrational as well.  All modern mathematics requires it.
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2017, 11:11:21 PM »
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2017, 11:37:25 PM »
https://www.space.com/4755-trading-cosmic-places-neptune-uranus-swapped-spots.html

Evidence on orbits of neptune and uranus.

OK, I've seen a bit about that on Science and Nature channels.  So?
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2017, 12:26:14 AM »
OK, I've seen a bit about that on Science and Nature channels.  So?

So Velikovski was right in principle, but wrong in the details and timing.  Planetoids changing orbits did happen, but much earlier in time.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2017, 02:06:41 AM »
So Velikovski was right in principle, but wrong in the details and timing.  Planetoids changing orbits did happen, but much earlier in time.

Wow.  That's like saying the Earth isn't flat.  Old news.
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2017, 07:03:48 AM »
Wow.  That's like saying the Earth isn't flat.  Old news.

So you are the ghost writer for all PhD work?  Incredible!  The article was from like ... 2007.  Not that long ago.  Didn't know you had already read it.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2017, 10:08:57 AM »
So you are the ghost writer for all PhD work?  Incredible!  The article was from like ... 2007.  Not that long ago.  Didn't know you had already read it.

Outdated already.
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2017, 11:02:21 AM »
Outdated already.

Then why read any research results?  Just wait until tomorrow, it only gets better ;-))
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2017, 11:27:15 AM »
Then why read any research results?  Just wait until tomorrow, it only gets better ;-))

Pretty much true.  But I'll take today's provisional knowledge ase something to work with today.  The changes get less and less, like knocking off the corners of a 60 point polygon until there is an actual functional working wheel.
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2017, 01:05:07 PM »
Pretty much true.  But I'll take today's provisional knowledge ase something to work with today.  The changes get less and less, like knocking off the corners of a 60 point polygon until there is an actual functional working wheel.

So you do have ... new solar formation cloud research to share with us, oh Dr Kant?
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2017, 01:11:38 PM »
So you do have ... new solar formation cloud research to share with us, oh Dr Kant?

No, I was just thinking of how some ancient Greek (I could look up who but won't) enclosed a circle internally and externally with ever more-sided polygons to get at pi...  The practical math must have gotten insane...
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2017, 01:12:50 PM »
No, I was just thinking of how some ancient Greek (I could look up who but won't) enclosed a circle internally and externally with ever more-sided polygons to get at pi...  The practical math must have gotten insane...

Really hard when trig tables haven't been invented yet!  Probably Archimedes.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Chaos in Nature
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2017, 01:21:46 PM »
Really hard when trig tables haven't been invented yet!  Probably Archimedes.

You are probably right.  Wikipedia suggests so.  But I was thinking some Greek had a go with the enclosing polygon idea before him.  Well. I've gotta go.  Been on too long.
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