My SJW Is Showing After Police Arrest Nurse

Started by SGOS, September 02, 2017, 02:24:57 PM

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SGOS

I suppose everyone has seen this by now.  Utah nurse arrested for following hospital protocol.  This blows my mind.  It's not like she's being uncooperative.  The hospital tells her she is not allowed to draw blood from an unconscious patient without a warrant or two other extenuating circumstances, none of which are met.  So a detective handcuffs her and drags her out of the hospital.  I think she's going to be OK, but she is probably confused about the reality she lives in right now.  I would be.  I don't know that I could maintain her level of civility in the aftermath.  I would try, but I'd probably blow the TV interview afterwards.  Catching this on the internet was a WTF??? moment for me.

The Arrest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU_RjebYDis

The Police Press Conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSWoiPWcC9E

News Interview with Nurse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zafTlclc090

Shiranu

Somehow, cops have to be reminded of their place... and I honestly don't know how that will be done when society creates memes luke, "blue lives matter too!" and constantly make excuses for them like, "not all cops are bad, so don't criticise them!"'.
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Mike Cl

I think it would be best for our society and the state it is in right now, for her to sue the police dept. for all the money she can get.  And it would be appropriate for that police officer be charged with assault--and his supervisor if he did, indeed, tell the officer to arrest the nurse.  I'm afraid neither will happen.
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Hijiri Byakuren

QuoteMy SJW Is Showing After Police Arrest Nurse
Between shit like this and Charlottesville, I'm kind of wishing for the SJWs to come back. Better the evil I'm mildly annoyed by than the evil I'm fucking terrified of.
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Hydra009

Quote from: SGOS on September 02, 2017, 02:24:57 PM
I suppose everyone has seen this by now.  Utah nurse arrested for following hospital protocol.  This blows my mind.  It's not like she's being uncooperative.  The hospital tells her she is not allowed to draw blood from an unconscious patient without a warrant or two other extenuating circumstances, none of which are met.  So a detective handcuffs her and drags her out of the hospital.
It boils my blood how this bully-with-a-badge immediately leapt to roughing her up when he found out he wouldn't get his way.  What a brutal enforcer.

Will he keep his job?  Would he keep his job if this weren't caught on camera?

In closing, I'd like to remind everyone that if I fuck up making a pizza, I fully expect to be fired.  But when one of these people fucks up a person's life, what are the consequences? (if any)

Baruch

In Albuquerque the police kill vagrants ... even if they are White ;-(

But really, since 9/11, the FISA court granted universal warrant for the President to do anything he damn well pleases, and delegate that god-power to any police jurisdiction he wants to grant it to.
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Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

SGOS

Quote from: Hydra009 on September 03, 2017, 12:04:58 AM
Will he keep his job?  Would he keep his job if this weren't caught on camera?
It's an interesting case as well as a visual example of police intimidation.  Conducting a search and seizure requires that a cop have reason to suspect wrong doing, which I assume justifies a warrant, although a warrant may not be required, depending on how "reason" is defined.  I'm only guessing about how that works. 

So cops have to make their own decision on whether to conduct a search without a warrant and take personal responsibility for the legality of it later.  But can they force a civilian to conduct the search for them?  Who would be guilty of the illegal search, if it is illegal?  Could the police just muscle their way into intensive care and get their own blood sample?  I mean if you need a blood sample that bad, it must be OK, right?

Take the nurse out of the picture, and imagine this case going to court.  If the judge throws out the case on the basis of an illegal search and seizure, does the officer have the right to immediately rough up the judge and drag him out of the courtroom?  The judge is just doing his job.  How would that be different than the nurse?

chill98

One of my first reactions to this was wow, a nurse who protects the patient, rather than giving into the police. 

I had thought all commercial truckers (this case) had given implied consent to testing when they accepted their license to drive big rigs, but after looking it up, Nope, the hospital rules regarding this were spot on.  The trucker had to be under arrest or a warrant needed if he did not/could not consent.

This poor guy ended up in the hospital via a different driver fleeing police and crashing into the truck. The other driver died.  There was no probable cause to arrest this driver, nor seek a warrant - though that does not mean a judge wouldn't have signed a warrant if asked.

aitm

Quote from: SGOS on September 03, 2017, 05:40:01 AM

Could the police just muscle their way into intensive care and get their own blood sample?  I mean if you need a blood sample that bad, it must be OK, right?


That certainly could happen, although any lawyer would claim the police were biased and thus their "chain of custody" would be tainted as well.

I have always wanted to challenge the right of officers to enter my house with a warrant but not without my having the right to search them for drugs or other contraband. We have established that cops have and will plant their own drugs to defend their warrant. I wonder how well that would play if I demanded they strip to their skivvies afor I let em in. Yo, Bitch! That bra looks stuffed, drop it!
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SGOS

Quote from: Hydra009 on September 03, 2017, 12:04:58 AM
It boils my blood how this bully-with-a-badge immediately leapt to roughing her up when he found out he wouldn't get his way.  What a brutal enforcer.
I was taken aback by that one too.  He could have said in a much more civilized manner, "Mam, I'm going to have to take you down to the station," and escorted her to his car.  Instead, he said, "That's it.  I'm arresting you," and then he apparently grabbed her.  I couldn't tell if she was resisting, however.  She seemed to be struggling in defense of the unusually rough treatment.  It seemed like the cop just wanted to get tough and teach her a lesson, and manhandling her was the method of choice.

Also, she seemed to be fearful when she was explaining patient rights and hospital rules to the cop.  I was perplexed by why that was, and I wondered if she sensed the cops unstable emotional state and a coming attack long before he escalated the situation.

Mermaid

Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 02, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
Between shit like this and Charlottesville, I'm kind of wishing for the SJWs to come back. Better the evil I'm mildly annoyed by than the evil I'm fucking terrified of.
I don't understand our culture at all.
"SJW" is such an annoying term. Everything is on a continuum, a spectrum. We seem to love to label people by one belief or action. Being disgusted by this police officer does not make you a "SJW", it makes you someone who finds this unjust act to be bad.

ARGH.
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Hydra009

Quote from: SGOS on September 03, 2017, 09:57:58 AMIt seemed like the cop just wanted to get tough and teach her a lesson, and manhandling her was the method of choice.
Exactly.  And if that's how he acts in a hospital, just imagine how he acts in the streets.  I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that this probably isn't the first time he's blown a gasket and roughed somebody up simply because he wanted to.

And he's far from the only one.  You'd think people sworn to uphold the law would have more respect for it.

SGOS

Quote from: Mermaid on September 03, 2017, 10:17:13 AM
I don't understand our culture at all.
"SJW" is such an annoying term. Everything is on a continuum, a spectrum. We seem to love to label people by one belief or action. Being disgusted by this police officer does not make you a "SJW", it makes you someone who finds this unjust act to be bad.

ARGH.
Thank You.

Baruch

"... does the officer have the right to immediately rough up the judge and drag him out of the courtroom?" ... quite a few cops would love to rough up quite a few judges over the last 60 years.  Their profession stinks, above the law, even more than police.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever


Good thing there wasn't a whole gang of cops there - they would probably all have jumped on her, maybe choked her out, or worse. Damned cops - can't live with them, can't live without them. I expect this kind of thing to get worse before it gets better. Chump wants them to be even more rough, so they think they've got carte blanche to do as they please.
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