Author Topic: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!  (Read 1299 times)

Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2017, 08:31:19 AM »
Back on topic-ish, some guys with nothing better to do reviewed the survey of the Mason-Nixon Line and determined it was way off in places.
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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2017, 09:42:45 AM »
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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2017, 02:19:31 PM »
Back on topic-ish, some guys with nothing better to do reviewed the survey of the Mason-Nixon Line and determined it was way off in places.

I've heard about that. The 4 corners monument was found to be about 1000 feet out of place, but because all 4 states had agreed on it for so long it's now the official corner of all 4 states anyways.

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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2017, 02:21:04 PM »
Back on topic-ish, some guys with nothing better to do reviewed the survey of the Mason-Nixon Line and determined it was way off in places.

200+ year old conspiracy theory ... so since Washington was a land speculator (at least in the Ohio Valley) ... maybe he was corruptly defining boundaries for "friends" rather than just being incompetent?  American leaders are corrupt as soon as you scratch the surface.  Franklin, Jefferson, Adams etc were all corrupt.
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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2017, 02:28:53 PM »
200+ year old conspiracy theory ... so since Washington was a land speculator (at least in the Ohio Valley) ... maybe he was corruptly defining boundaries for "friends" rather than just being incompetent?  American leaders are corrupt as soon as you scratch the surface.  Franklin, Jefferson, Adams etc were all corrupt.
Never trust a surveyor.  They're all crooks, and they want to screw you.

Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2017, 02:32:05 PM »
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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2017, 02:44:37 PM »
I've heard about that. The 4 corners monument was found to be about 1000 feet out of place, but because all 4 states had agreed on it for so long it's now the official corner of all 4 states anyways.
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That's a pretty important corner, but it's out in a desert in the middle of nowhere, and the guy that put it there is dead.  I doubt much would change if they put it in the right place.  When I was in Arizona, I took a course in Arizona State History, about 80% of which focused on the four states squabbling over water rights.  At least they can find agreement on this one thing, which is coincidentally known to be wrong by all parties involved.

Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2017, 03:08:12 PM »
That's a pretty important corner, but it's out in a desert in the middle of nowhere, and the guy that put it there is dead.  I doubt much would change if they put it in the right place.  When I was in Arizona, I took a course in Arizona State History, about 80% of which focused on the four states squabbling over water rights.  At least they can find agreement on this one thing, which is coincidentally known to be wrong by all parties involved.

Well, when the original surveyors put it there it superseded all prior written descriptions. It's 1000 feet off from where a modern surveyor would put it, but considering that it was shortly after the civil war its really incredible that it's that close.
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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2017, 03:20:20 PM »
I like nice neat states, and it's much easier for surveyors to make squares.  Look at Colorado.  Now look at West Virginia.  It may have the worst shape of any state.  Hell, they didn't even bother surveying it.  They just followed rivers, creeks, cowpaths, and told Ohio and Pennsylvania to finish up as soon as there was any real work needed to be done.


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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2017, 03:28:16 PM »
Michigan takes the cake, however.  It should be two states.  What surveyor came up with the idea of two giant parcels of land separated by hundreds of miles of water and calling it a state?  Northern Michigan is farther from Southern Michigan than Russia is from Sara Palin's house.  Any idiot can tell it actually belongs to Wisconsin.

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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2017, 03:31:12 PM »
And what doofus decided to cut off the top of the Texas Panhandle and give to Oklahoma?

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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2017, 03:48:32 PM »
So here's a really basic question: What is that thingy and what does it measure?
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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2017, 04:23:37 PM »
So here's a really basic question: What is that thingy and what does it measure?


Total station. It's a combination of an electronic theodolite and an electronic distance meter. It uses lasers to measure distance and angles. The one in the pic I posted is a Topcon GTS 3B. It's accurate to within thousandths of a foot. My job is to hold a pole with a prism on it that reflects the laser back to the station.
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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2017, 05:01:27 PM »
You know, I have always wondered that, and have never bothered to ask anyone. I learned a thing today!
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Re: I'm a Land Surveyor now! Ask Me Things!
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2017, 01:51:17 AM »
Never trust a surveyor.  They're all crooks, and they want to screw you.

Just like any other zoning commission.  A case of liquor, and you can get property rezoned, no problemo.  No, I am implying that a young George Washington, who at that time wasn't rich, might have taken bribes.  He wasn't beyond killing Natives, Frenchmen or treason.  What if a part of a neighboring property is desirable ... and you can't easily buy it off the current owner?  Just have the property line moves a smidgen.  We had a family friend, who bought an undeveloped property in California years ago, and it turned out it had already been sold to someone else.

If someone expects people to be all Gandhi or St Joan of Arc ... they are going to either keep their head up their ass, or be very disappointed.  But maybe he was just an incompetent liar, like during the Braddock expedition disaster.
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