Author Topic: Abuse by big data ...  (Read 208 times)

Offline Baruch (OP)

Abuse by big data ...
« on: August 26, 2017, 08:03:20 AM »
1. Much of the data is gathered without the knowledge of the victims, or against their wishes when they do know of the gathering
2. Algorithms are used, which either embed the prejudices of some programmer, or are AI algorithms that write themselves (data trained parameters) that nobody as a result understands

Cathy O'Neil is an expert on this subject ...


I have followed her blog for years.
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Offline Sorginak

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2017, 09:17:16 AM »
She should have been gathering data on "what color to not dye your hair" and "how to not have your wardrobe clash with your clown hair". 

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2017, 10:03:15 AM »
She should have been gathering data on "what color to not dye your hair" and "how to not have your wardrobe clash with your clown hair".
Really?  How astute.
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Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2017, 11:01:06 AM »
Really?  How astute.

Unfortunately, if one has a unique opinion, it is hard to draw appropriate statistical conclusions, or other machine learning stuff.  And "ad hominem" is pretty common here, among the "so called" rationalists.
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Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2017, 11:32:55 AM »
Unfortunately, if one has a unique opinion, it is hard to draw appropriate statistical conclusions, or other machine learning stuff.  And "ad hominem" is pretty common here, among the "so called" rationalists.
I have found that as I age, I am more and more drawn to people with 'clown' hair and who dress to a 'different drummer'.  They often have a different slant on things and are usually more interesting.  They flaunt the 'how you gotta look' police--I like that.  Seems to show courage and an internal knowledge of themselves and what they are about.  I wish I had come to something like that much, much younger.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline pr126

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2017, 11:58:08 AM »
Baruch wrote:
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And "ad hominem" is pretty common here, among the "so called" rationalists.
Actually, it is called "free thinking".
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Offline Sorginak

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2017, 12:01:20 PM »
I have found that as I age, I am more and more drawn to people with 'clown' hair and who dress to a 'different drummer'.  They often have a different slant on things and are usually more interesting.  They flaunt the 'how you gotta look' police--I like that.  Seems to show courage and an internal knowledge of themselves and what they are about.  I wish I had come to something like that much, much younger.

I got my lip pierced in my late thirties, and I still have the piercing.  ;)

Offline Cavebear

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2017, 01:56:53 PM »
1. Much of the data is gathered without the knowledge of the victims, or against their wishes when they do know of the gathering
2. Algorithms are used, which either embed the prejudices of some programmer, or are AI algorithms that write themselves (data trained parameters) that nobody as a result understands

Cathy O'Neil is an expert on this subject ...


I have followed her blog for years.

Lets see.  A better hair style and colorist, better clothes, Yeah she would be be just as smart as she already is...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2017, 03:20:12 PM »
I got my lip pierced in my late thirties, and I still have the piercing.  ;)
Ouch!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2017, 03:24:46 PM »
I have found that as I age, I am more and more drawn to people with 'clown' hair and who dress to a 'different drummer'.  They often have a different slant on things and are usually more interesting.  They flaunt the 'how you gotta look' police--I like that.  Seems to show courage and an internal knowledge of themselves and what they are about.  I wish I had come to something like that much, much younger.

So you are turning gay, but only attracted to Willy Wonka?  Kinky.
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Offline Sorginak

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2017, 03:30:54 PM »
Ouch!

Getting it pierced didn't hurt.  It was the week of a swollen lip that was more annoying. 

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2017, 03:44:06 PM »
Getting it pierced didn't hurt.  It was the week of a swollen lip that was more annoying.

Kiss like an Aztec?  Also those really big cylinder earrings that expand the ear piercing huge.  Tattoos are also a sign of ... barbarism ;-)
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Abuse by big data ...
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2017, 04:15:18 PM »
Kiss like an Aztec?  Also those really big cylinder earrings that expand the ear piercing huge.  Tattoos are also a sign of ... barbarism ;-)

The only piercings I get are from bramble thorns and splinters.  I don't even have any bumberstixkers on my car.

I'm considering one though:  "BE ALERT (This country needs more LERTS")

Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950