Author Topic: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?  (Read 644 times)

Offline Agro (OP)

Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« on: August 21, 2017, 11:20:54 AM »
Like Trotsky is said to be jewish just to mention some. Putin himself says USSR was mostly run by jews.

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 11:25:42 AM »
This one will go far.

Offline pr126

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2017, 11:54:12 AM »
 :popcorn:
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Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2017, 01:05:33 PM »
What????  Are you 6 yrs. old?????
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2017, 01:12:00 PM »
Like Trotsky is said to be jewish just to mention some. Putin himself says USSR was mostly run by jews.

Russia/Poland/Lithuania/Ukraine have a historical love-hate relationship with Jewish people.  It has a long history there, even longer than the US/Hispanic/Black love-hate relationship.  You really would have to study a lot of history to understand it.  I will summarize recent history for you.  BTW - I identify as Jewish.

Putin is Russian, not Jewish.  He thinks of Jews like a bigoted Anglo Texan thinks of Mexicans or Blacks.  Not a good person to listen to on Jews or Gays.

Trotsky was a Jewish Menshevik, Lenin was a Bolshevik.  Stalin took over from Lenin ... and killed most of the Jewish Bolsheviks.  Lenin was part Tartar-part Russian, Stalin was full Georgian.  Russians were the primary victims of the Lenin-Stalin regime.  Trotsky was exiled and eventually assassinated by Stalin, for being a Jewish Menshevik.  Bolsheviks were nationalists ... Mensheviks were internationalists (think R vs L communism).  Stalin ruled the Soviet Union for about 25 years, and was anti-Semite.  The Soviet Union continued to be anti-Semite all thru the fall of their regime, and was happy to see many Jews migrate to Israel and the US.  Think of communism historically as extreme socialism.

The founders of modern Israel were mostly Jewish socialists from E Europe, prior to WW II.  And a few utopians.  They founded the kibbutz system (voluntary socialized agriculture).  Stalin used forced socialized agriculture.  Israelis dispossessed Palestinians.  Stalin murdered Ukrainians (who opposed socialized agriculture).  In the popular mind, in the West, from 1900 - 1970, Jewish people were associated with various forms of socialism.  Both in the West, and in Israel, the socialism has been transformed into neo-Liberalism or neo-Conservativism since 1970.  Jewish people have politically assimilated with their Gentile neighbors.

Part of modern anti-Semitism, is caused by xenophobic Gentiles and fear of the Rothschild family.  The Rothschilds are Jewish, and the world's richest family (aside from the English royal family).  They have progressively taken over banking in the last 300 years, starting with the Bank of England, and extending to the FED.  They got that way by being "court Jews" .. Jews who betray Jews to Gentiles for profit.  "court Jews" aren't considered good Jews.  They also helped finance the founding of modern Israel.  The Rothschilds cause a lot of conspiracy theories because of their power and secrecy, and are very powerful, particularly in GB and Israel.  The Rothschilds may ... or may not ... be working long term for the Papacy and the European royals, particularly QEII.  GB and Israel have a lot of power over the US.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ... is a fantasy by French anti-Semites in the 19th century, which was adopted by anti-Semites in the Russian Imperial government.  It is this "original" conspiracy theory that would probably fuel Putin's views.  Hitler believed in it, religiously ;-(
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Online Shiranu

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2017, 02:35:45 PM »
Oh ffs.
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Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2017, 02:42:23 PM »
This one will go far.
Yeah, the farce is strong in this one...
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Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2017, 04:29:02 PM »
well a question for the resident expert Baruch. I read an article that didnt tell the whole story. Russia had captured a group of Askenasik Jews and kept them in isolation. In 1910 this group of Jews was pissed off and tired of being ignored. So they attempted to overthrow the government of Russia. In the process the killed 60million Russians. So who won? the Jews or the Russians. and how many people were living in Russia when this happened? I didnt get the whole story.

I don't know enough about Jews or Israelites to know if they are evil. So far all I've figured out is that there are people who were born and lived as Muslims that are mixed blood Jews or Israelites. There are other people who say they are Jews that are of the religion but are not of the blood. Since I'm not a genetic scientist if a Palestinian or any one else wants to say they are A Jew I don't have any way to say that they aren't.

When I was in church they told us the Roth childs are the real devil-worshipers
another quote from an antagonist agnostic: not expecting god to show up, but if he does we’re going to have to beat the prick up.

Offline Baruch

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 06:50:37 PM »
well a question for the resident expert Baruch. I read an article that didnt tell the whole story. Russia had captured a group of Askenasik Jews and kept them in isolation. In 1910 this group of Jews was pissed off and tired of being ignored. So they attempted to overthrow the government of Russia. In the process the killed 60million Russians. So who won? the Jews or the Russians. and how many people were living in Russia when this happened? I didnt get the whole story.

I don't know enough about Jews or Israelites to know if they are evil. So far all I've figured out is that there are people who were born and lived as Muslims that are mixed blood Jews or Israelites. There are other people who say they are Jews that are of the religion but are not of the blood. Since I'm not a genetic scientist if a Palestinian or any one else wants to say they are A Jew I don't have any way to say that they aren't.

When I was in church they told us the Roth childs are the real devil-worshipers

Actually Jews and Gentiles are, not more or less evil relatively.  Evil comes from the shared humanity (or inhumanity if you prefer).  The notion that 1 million Russian Jews (mostly in Ukraine and W Russia) killed 60 million Russians is ... stupid.  We Jews can put on our pants, two legs at a time, so you can identify us that way.  But we can't kill 60 Philistines, with one Jew wielding the jaw bone of an ass.  Some but not all of the pre-1917 revolutionaries were Jewish, but not the really important ones, except Trotsky, which is why Stalin had to get rid of him.  The prior 1905 revolution was a popular urban revolt by Russians of all ethnicities.  The Czars cavalry guards started it, by running down and slashing a protesting crowd in St Petersburg.  Think the US National Guard shooting people (like Kent State) not like individual nuts running people down with a car.  The real rot behind the last Czarina, was Rasputin, a Russian Christian super nut case.  Charismatic psychopath, like Mr Bannon.

Palestinians et al have no business saying who is a Jew.  Neither do Jews ;-)  Most Jews today are secular, I don't consider them Jewish.  I have limited Jewish genetics ... but I am more Jewish than the PM of Israel today, no matter who he thinks his mother's ancestry was.  Rabbinic BS that is.  The Rothschilds are just a very powerful banking family ... they have no Jewish ethics, which is the main thing for any real Jew.  And Jewish ethics applies to everyone, you are not to mistreat anyone, not just not mistreat fellow Jews.  The PM of Israel today, has no ethics ... he is a blood thirsty politician.  Think King Herod.  King of the Jews, but not Jewish, because his ancestor was Esau, not Jacob.  There are people of Jewish ancestry now, of all races, even Chinese and African.  Many Palestinians are of Jewish ancestry, not Arabic ancestry.  Originally they were Christians, when the Muslims arrived out of the vast desert.  Actual Arabs ended up as an upper class, not a lower class.  And Palestinians were also Philistines and Canaanites ... before they were Jews.  There were a few Jews who started out as Khazars ... a kind of Turk ... but that can be spotted genetically, and there are much fewer of those than Arabs (and other anti-Semites starting in the 1960s) like to claim.  Real Jews in Israel, like Naturei Karta, actually support Hamas, not Likud.
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Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 07:54:41 PM »
I'm worried.
Is it a sign that you're getting old when you think:

Listen here, kiddo. Back in the day, being a troll meant something. It took creativity, damn you. It took diligence. It meant honing, honoring and respecting your craft. It required patience. An understanding of your opponent. And a willingness to go all out into the long game.
But these youngster's these days. Think they can throw together any willy, nilly provocation and leave it at a forum's doorstep like a poop in a flaming paper bag...
They ain't got dime on the trolls of old, I tells ye.
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But let us not choose one direction
without proof of where it is headed.

Check your pocket for matches
so we can observe and learn together
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Offline aitm

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 10:18:38 PM »
Like Trotsky is said to be jewish just to mention some. Putin himself says USSR was mostly run by jews.
as is 75% of the world...so....what is the question? Would you rather the world be run by them fucking evil nasty dirty filthy smelly midwestern US Methodists?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2017, 06:49:55 AM »
as is 75% of the world...so....what is the question? Would you rather the world be run by them fucking evil nasty dirty filthy smelly midwestern US Methodists?

Methodists?  (Shudders)
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Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 08:10:00 PM »
so the 60 million is an exaggeration?? I guess that must be some kind of Jewish humor. David has killed his thousands and the Bolsheviks have killed their 10,000s.

are Jews evil? If I base the answer on my experience with those that I have met (Baruch, a college professor, a customer whose house I was working in at the beginning of Sabbat) I would have to say no. I think that the mentality of Jewish people in the U.S. is very different than those that live in Israel. The Jews in Israel and the Palestinians are always pokin each other in the eye. They seem to enjoy fighting with each other; like France and England used to do
another quote from an antagonist agnostic: not expecting god to show up, but if he does we’re going to have to beat the prick up.

Offline Baruch

Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2017, 08:28:58 PM »
so the 60 million is an exaggeration?? I guess that must be some kind of Jewish humor. David has killed his thousands and the Bolsheviks have killed their 10,000s.

are Jews evil? If I base the answer on my experience with those that I have met (Baruch, a college professor, a customer whose house I was working in at the beginning of Sabbat) I would have to say no. I think that the mentality of Jewish people in the U.S. is very different than those that live in Israel. The Jews in Israel and the Palestinians are always pokin each other in the eye. They seem to enjoy fighting with each other; like France and England used to do

Palestinians and Israelis love to hate and fight each other.  This goes back over 3000 years.  They aren't going to stop now, are they.  And France and England may yet come to blows again ... because they had a common enemy, Germany, they stopped fighting for awhile.  But England can't even pick on Ireland anymore, maybe not even Scotland.  So I don't think the French have much to worry about ;-)
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Re: Are jews evil, or just scapegoat for anti marxism?
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2017, 10:36:11 PM »
Boo.
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