FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry

[Baruch]

I think there was more than mere incompetence at work, I think there was a coup - just part of the vast right-wing conspiracy.

American Revolution ... vast Girondin conspiracy.  Destroy revolutionaries!  The last 300 years have sucked for law and order.

See, when you get down to this, desire to maintain or gain power, means we must become murderers ... because humans won't see the reason of ... self preservation.  Give me my MTV, or die, KKK scum!  Greed and politics leads to ... annihilation.

[Blackleaf]

1. you dont know me. how I think. etc. asserting some stereotype is a fallacy. you can not begin to tell me how I think.

Doesn't matter. I've had enough experience with people like you to know you operate in a hive mind where facts don't matter, and opinions are fed to you via other Christians who say what you like to hear. You claim logic when logic is nowhere to be found in your posts.

2. I know of scientology. much like the faith of Aztecs, it is a religion. does it cause damage to those who follow it or others? that answer does not determine what a religion is. Do I like it or agree with it? again a question that should not influence how that sect should be looked at.

Define "cult."

[Drew_2017]

I think there was more than mere incompetence at work, I think there was a coup - just part of the vast right-wing conspiracy.

Rut roh, I think he's on to us. Baruch warm up the black helicopters we may have to take some people out.

[aitm]

It was founded by white slave owners ...

Who used the bible as their foundation for the use of slaves. Let's start with tossing that piece of garbage out, then we can get back to skin color.

[Baruch]

Rut roh, I think he's on to us. Baruch warm up the black helicopters we may have to take some people out.

All of politics is conspiracy against the citizens ... always has been.  True for Washington et al, if you have your eyes open.  It matters however, which street gang you belong to.  Give the wrong "sign" and they are likely to kill you, if you are in their territory.

[Baruch]

Who used the bible as their foundation for the use of slaves. Let's start with tossing that piece of garbage out, then we can get back to skin color.

Always been slaves, always will be.  But most slaves can't deal with the reality of it.

[Drew_2017]

Who used the bible as their foundation for the use of slaves. Let's start with tossing that piece of garbage out, then we can get back to skin color.

The abolitionists also used the bible as a foundation to ban slavery...and ultimately to support woman's rights. 

[Hakurei Reimu]

^ In short, you can use the Bible to support any position you want. Ergo, it has no intrinsic worth.

[Mike Cl]

The abolitionists also used the bible as a foundation to ban slavery...and ultimately to support woman's rights.

Which is simply another demonstration at how empty the babble really is.  You can literally prove what you want to--the bible actually does not teach morals or ethics.

[randomvim]

And you believe that?  Wow.

Also, appeal to tradition.  You're really cranking out the fallacies in this hole you're digging.
As I recall, you called it a cult.  What's the difference between a cult and a religion, btw?  (Spoiler: it's mostly a function of size and money/influence)
The church-state equivalent of "first dibs"?  And this is logic to you?  Wow again.

1. I see you provide no counter. but do you believe isil is not destroying historical artifacts that todays generations could learn from?

otherwise there is no appeal to tradition when I think some things poses not just a historical importance but may present a lesson for todays generation. If you dont believe that, fine. be able to present a proper counter.

3. First dibs has nothing to do with who or how a group of people influenced what. My local community has a rich buddist history and are very involved with govt. activities. Inter- faith activities do well in my community because of such openess and togetherness. we learn from each other.


Again. dibs is not what I spoke of.

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[randomvim]

Doesn't matter. I've had enough experience with people like you to know you operate in a hive mind where facts don't matter, and opinions are fed to you via other Christians who say what you like to hear. You claim logic when logic is nowhere to be found in your posts.

Define "cult."

1. "doesnt matter." refraining from fallacy doesnt matter to you but you try to say I have an issue with logic? har har har.

You have had zero experience with anyone like me. Your response suggests it. so move on.

2. define?
small group or groups that have misplaced or excessive admiration for (in comparison to populace) with questionable intent or practice.



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[Mike Cl]

2. define?
small group or groups that have misplaced or excessive admiration for (in comparison to populace) with questionable intent or practice.

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How does that not make methodists or baptists or any other sect of christanity  a cult?

[Drew_2017]

Which is simply another demonstration at how empty the babble really is.  You can literally prove what you want to--the bible actually does not teach morals or ethics.

Yet it seems like those who detest Christians or Jews hold them up to a very high standard of moral and ethical behavior. Everyone knows the golden rule and that Christians subscribe to that belief. Just about everyone is familiar with the Sermon on the MT, a very high call to ethical behavior. Two problems I observe with bible believers is they don't live up to the standard much better than anyone else, yet they often scold others for failing to live by a standard they often fail at. 

[Sylar]

I'm not ashamed of our history, but there's a right way and a wrong way to do it. Displaying Confederate flags in a museum about the Civil War? That's fine. Displaying the flag in your front lawn? Not fine.

Displaying Confederate flag on front lawn is also fine. That's private property. I do not care what someone chooses to display on their private property.

Displaying Confederate flag on public property? That's where the problem lies.

[Sylar]

It was founded by white slave owners who by definition must have been white supremacists. The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are white supremacist documents that must be destroyed along with the statues. In fact we should take down statues of any white person its racist not to.

The Founders did not rebel against the United States, and they did not fight a war for the right to own other human beings as property.

When a monument is dedicated to the Founders, it is not celebrating slavery. It is celebrating the birth of a New Nation. That is a profound difference, don't you think?

Furthermore, most of these Confederate monuments were erected during Jim Crow Laws era, as a method of subjugation and oppression against blacks and other minorities. They served as a reminder to freed slaves and their children that they are second class citizens in an era of segregation.

I personally have no problem with Confederate cemeteries or some select Confederate Civil War-era monuments/statues, but all these 20th century monuments need to be moved into Civil War museums. Celebration of slavery in the twenty-first century is an abomination and has no place in our society.