Author Topic: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry  (Read 3022 times)

Offline pr126

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2017, 07:12:51 AM »
Interesting that no one ever brings up Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Fidel, Che as a boogie man. They were all mass murderers.
Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, Atilla, Muhammad?

Oh sorry not the Prophet, PBUH.
He started a war  622, still in progress and will be until further notice.
 Btw, the prophet is responsible for 270 million corpses, ongoing.

No, we only ever mention Hitler. Yes, he was a nasty character, but so were the others.

Favorite saying: “he is literaly Hitler”.
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Offline Atheon

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2017, 07:24:03 AM »
I stated during the election, I will vote as a Jew, for Zombie Hitler, before I will vote for you Alinsky POS.  And Stalin was a bad guy too.
Stalin was a bad guy, every bit as evil as his fellow right-winger Hitler, not to mention those other right-wingers like ISIS, Kim Il Sung, Idi Amin, Mao, and Pol Pot.

But we actually have people out there marching with Nazi banners. There are no Stalinists marching out there in the US.

As for "literally Hitler", I've only ever heard right-wingers say it. I think they just made it up.
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Offline Shiranu (OP)

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2017, 07:27:07 AM »
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Interesting that no one ever brings up Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Fidel, Che as a boogie man. They were all mass murderers.


A. Maybe because there aren't Stalinists, Maoist, Potest, Fidelists, Cheists murdering people and having the president of the strongest nation in the world excusing their actions.
B. People mention at least Stalin and Castro all the time, and Mao as well, what the fuck are you on about? I understand maybe you don't hear about Cuba so much in the UK as we do here in the U.S. given the geographic distances of our two countries from Cuba, but his regime was and is still very relevant here, particularly in states like Texas, Florida and New York.

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No, we only ever mention Hitler. Yes, he was a nasty character, but so were the others.

Who. The fuck. Cares?

We are talking about Neo-Nazis. Nazis. The people who supported Hitler. When people who supported Hitler murder an American citizen, it shouldn't be surprising that we are talking about Hitler.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 - "For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under the heaven."

When people have just been murdered by Nazis, the time is to talk about Nazis. It is not time to start blaming the victims. It is not time to say, "But, but... other people are bad too!!!".

I can understand someone with something like severe autism or some other condition that causes them to have trouble understanding social cues and norms struggling with this concept (for perfectly understandable reasons), but for anyone without a medical excuse there is absolutely zero excuse other than you have let hatred and fear consume your heart.
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Online Baruch

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2017, 07:35:08 AM »
Stalin was a bad guy, every bit as evil as his fellow right-winger Hitler. But we actually have people out there marching with Nazi banners. There are no Stalinists marching out there in the US.

Three points ...

You are in Taiwan
Escape hole for KMT party
KMT was an ally of Germany, until Hitler dumped them for the more successfully warlike Japanese

So connecting the points, you are post-facto supporting people who supported Hitler.  What do you have against the Mainland, who drove that KMT shit out?

And yes, all you Lefties are closet killers ... pacifists support Gandhi not Mao ... and they don't support KMT either.

And you redefine words to suit your ideology (vs the common definitions).
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Online Baruch

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2017, 07:36:29 AM »
Shiranu - so what camel will you be riding, to your anti-Nazi jihad?
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Offline pr126

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2017, 07:37:09 AM »
@ Shiranu

You forgot liar and coward. Get with the program
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Online Baruch

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2017, 07:38:58 AM »
@ Shiranu

You forgot liar and coward. Get with the program

I think there is a fair amount of "death to anglophones" here.  Attila was OK because he didn't speak English.  Maybe the Irish, not Putin, are generating all this anglophobia.  And yes, Ireland supported the Kaiser and Hitler both.
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Offline Shiranu (OP)

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2017, 07:40:17 AM »
@ Shiranu

You forgot liar and coward. Get with the program

Good to see you have given up on pretending to make sense.
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"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline Shiranu (OP)

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2017, 07:45:14 AM »
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Maybe the Irish, not Putin, are generating all this anglophobia.

Tell that to the thousands of Irish who deserted their homeland to fight and die for their sworn enemy and enslavers against the Nazis (to return home and be called traitors), or the thousands more who left their new homeland of America to be butchered in France and Germany.
“Life isn't long enough to enjoy and understand all at the same time. You have to decide which is more important." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline pr126

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2017, 07:48:30 AM »
Where are all these nazis coming from?
Seems there are more now in the US than in Europe  in 1930-45.

I think it is Trump’s fault. The new Hitler. ;)

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Offline Shiranu (OP)

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2017, 08:11:55 AM »
People with these bigoted and hateful views have been here for years; if you knew how to listen to anyone outside your own bubble, to minorities, to women, to whoever isn't on the alt-right, you would know this is a problem that has existed in the dark underbelly of our society. They just have become more emboldened by a president who tells them, "You're not to blame if you commit violent acts.". They have become more emboldened by a president who said during the campaign, "Commit violence against leftists who oppose me. I'll defend you." They have become more emboldened by a president who put their leading media man as a direct adviser to the strongest job in the world.

If you look at any graph or statistics about hate crime in the United States, you will notice this wonderful trend of the numbers going down and down across the board... until the last year or so, when the numbers spiked.

-The number of hate groups in the U.S. have increased by 17% since 2014, at nearly 1000 recognized hate groups currently operating in some capacity in the States.
-White supremacy, anti-Muslim and anti-LGBT groups make up about 80% of all hate groups in the United states.
-Anti-Muslim hate groups tripled in the last year alone, and began their spike around the time Trump began his anti-Muslim rhetoric.
-Anti-Muslim hate crimes spiked in 2015, dipped a bit, and then have steadily and quickly rising since Trump's campaign and election.
-Anti-African American hate crime, against steadily decreasing for decades, even during Obama's presidency when you had cases like Martin and early BLM protests, have began to increase again over the last year.

We do not know the exact numbers of members, because surprisingly enough people don't often want to actively identify themselves as Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists. What we do know however is that 63 million Americans voted for a candidate who time, and time, and time, and time again showed support for these groups, who defended their hateful rhetoric, who engaged in this hateful rhetoric (and other rhetoric such as extremely sexist remarks and mocking the physically and mentally handicapped) himself. We have 63 million Americans who decided that these view points aren't radical enough to warrant not voting for someone.

That is the important, underlying factor. 63 million Americans did more than silently agree with this hateful ideology; they elected someone who espouses it. This is not because they are bad people, or hateful people, or whatever... he weaved a pretty tale, promised them many things, and exploited their fear for his own gain. So this is what I think is most important... just like in Germany, the average German was not a Nazi or supported the Nazis, but they allowed their fear to be manipulated until things got out of control. It's not about how many Nazis were in Germany, or in the United States, but how many people do not get engaged in politics and think the presidency is something you can sit back and not pay attention to and everything will work out.

60% of eligible voters turned up, with 48% of them voting for Hillary. That means about 70% of the population either actively supported a xenophobic, racist, sexist cretin with zero moral integrity and the disposition of a 5 year old to be the leader of the free world or sat by silently while he took office.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing."
“Life isn't long enough to enjoy and understand all at the same time. You have to decide which is more important." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2017, 08:50:31 AM »
Faux News on BLM riots: Evil Leftist Socialists! They have no excuse!

Faux News on Nazis: It's the Left! They made them do it!
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Online Baruch

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2017, 01:15:43 PM »
Tell that to the thousands of Irish who deserted their homeland to fight and die for their sworn enemy and enslavers against the Nazis (to return home and be called traitors), or the thousands more who left their new homeland of America to be butchered in France and Germany.

Any Irishman, who doesn't think constantly of killing English, who doesn't ally with the enemies of the English ... isn't a leprechaun at all.  So, some Irish Canadians, some Irish British, some Irish Anzacs, some Irish Americans were ... confused as to their primary loyalty?  That and the Pope in Rome.

But either we accept that the anti-British anti-American forces are part of a general "death to Western Europe" or they are specifically anglo-phobes ... they aren't all ... "death to Eastern Europe" or "death to Russia" ... because their Russian and E German paymasters wouldn't be amused.  And yes, Merkel is the Chancellor of E Germany.  Soros is a totally evil Hungarian and pseudo-Jew who collaborated with the Nazis.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing." .. so Shiranu volunteers to go back in time and kill "baby Hitler"?  There are no good men.  But you won't conclude that cynicism, until you have earned it later in life ;-)
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Online Baruch

Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2017, 01:17:19 PM »
Faux News on BLM riots: Evil Leftist Socialists! They have no excuse!

Faux News on Nazis: It's the Left! They made them do it!

Death to both parties.  FEMA camps for those who support either party after they are made illegal, for being treason against Federalism (Washington and John Adams).
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Re: FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2017, 01:36:33 PM »
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/15/donald-trump-charlottesville-press-conference-newt-gingrich-reacts


Reminder: This is the number one watched news station in the world, defending someone for defending Nazism and White Supremacy.

Remind me again, where are the major Regressive Left, Cultural Marxist news outlets defending Antifa? Where is Antifa so ingrained into American society that the highest leader electable in their region is actively supporting their ideology?

Oh, right, the alt-right is once again full of shit and hatred. Surprising.
I didnt vote for Trump. wish for another person to be president. But I detest the lie about him defending racists.

A person calling out multiple peoples for violence w/o naming a titled organization does not and can not mean support of a single organization.

Instead, focusing on the violence itself and denouncing political violence was and always will be the right course to take.

Otherwise, if not mentioning an organization by name some how equates to support. then there are several news outlets that have ignored and failed to call out antifa or any person who has vandalized, rioted, and stolen. those who are recorded (w/ videos online) of throwing fecies and m80's into crowds. using weapons such as bike locks to attack innocent people.

enemy of my enemy is not a friend.

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