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Online Baruch (OP)

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2017, 04:08:07 PM »
Hillary Clinton would be an outstanding Supreme Court Justice.  You may not like her politics, but that wouldn't be the way she decided cases.  She has that ability to separate her desires and see law.  I've always thought that was the right place for her.

I suspect Obama came close to offers to her to be a Justice or Sec of State and made a choice.   Close, and she was a good Sec of State, but she might have been a better Justice.

Former PM Blair is running for Pope, and Obama is running for UN secretary general.  Megalomaniacs are so predictable.  Bill Clinton can be Chief Porn Artist.
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Offline aitm

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2017, 04:09:47 PM »
Hillary Clinton would be an outstanding Supreme Court Justice.  You may not like her politics, but that wouldn't be the way she decided cases.  She has that ability to separate her desires and see law.  I've always thought that was the right place for her.

I suspect Obama came close to offers to her to be a Justice or Sec of State and made a choice.   Close, and she was a good Sec of State, but she might have been a better Justice.
My comment was completely related to her as a minister. Frankly I am simply tired of her, which is a shame because she could be the perfect person for several positions.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2017, 04:13:49 PM »
My comment was completely related to her as a minister. Frankly I am simply tired of her, which is a shame because she could be the perfect person for several positions.

Please assure me you meant "positions" innocently.  Guy speech is tricky enough as it is.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2017, 05:11:10 PM »
My comment was completely related to her as a minister. Frankly I am simply tired of her, which is a shame because she could be the perfect person for several positions.

I actually agree with this, and I voted for her. Both the over-saturation and her attitude make her tiring for how good of politician she actually is.
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"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes

Offline Cavebear

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2017, 05:32:15 PM »
I actually agree with this, and I voted for her. Both the over-saturation and her attitude make her tiring for how good of politician she actually is.
All the more reason to get her a permanent job she would be good at...
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Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2017, 05:33:08 PM »
Bill Clinton can be Chief Porn Artist.
Not really--he is not a Repub.  And Newt makes him look like a piker when it comes to sex out of marriage. 
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Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Cavebear

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2017, 05:38:59 PM »
Not really--he is not a Repub.  And Newt makes him look like a piker when it comes to sex out of marriage.
See, this is why Baruch makes me ill.  No sense, no content, no value, no purpose...

Just CRAP!!!

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Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2017, 05:44:01 PM »
See, this is why Baruch makes me ill.  No sense, no content, no value, no purpose...

Just CRAP!!!
Crap is certainly part of it. :)   But you have to separate the chaff from the wheat.  :))   We go back a couple of decades and I do appreciate the guy's whit, insight, and knowledge. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Cavebear

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2017, 06:26:43 PM »
Crap is certainly part of it. :)   But you have to separate the chaff from the wheat.  :))   We go back a couple of decades and I do appreciate the guy's whit, insight, and knowledge.

Well I don't.  Everytime I noticed he was knowledgeable about something, he went all stupid/funny/dumb.  I accept your history though.

It is the failed promise of some people that saddens me most.
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Online Baruch (OP)

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2017, 12:01:57 AM »
Not really--he is not a Repub.  And Newt makes him look like a piker when it comes to sex out of marriage.

And Jack Kennedy was celibate ;-)  You are a Dem all the way, just like the baseball fan you are.  Yes, Newt should be publicly whipped, but then all politicians would find that punishment salutory for multiple reasons ;-)

You aren I are both over 60, Cavebear.  You know what that typically does to male personalities (called being garrulous).  It isn't pretty.  Fortunately neither of us use our real visage ;-)

And Mike, you are showing some of those symptoms too, though more like flashbacks to bad parts of your childhood.  Did the KKK really burn a cross on your front lawn every Sunday?  I hope not.
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Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2017, 12:45:56 AM »
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And Mike, you are showing some of those symptoms too, though more like flashbacks to bad parts of your childhood.  Did the KKK really burn a cross on your front lawn every Sunday?  I hope not.
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The KKK from my childhood (around Anniston, Ala) didn't do much cross burning--too bush lynching.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Online Baruch (OP)

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2017, 12:54:14 AM »
[quote author=Baruch link=topic=11822.msg1186096#msg1186096 date=1502596917

And Mike, you are showing some of those symptoms too, though more like flashbacks to bad parts of your childhood.  Did the KKK really burn a cross on your front lawn every Sunday?  I hope not.

The KKK from my childhood (around Anniston, Ala) didn't do much cross burning--too bush lynching.

Definitely legitimately triggering.  But given different circumstances, you could have been the good-old-boy doing the lynching, or the black-fellow getting lynched.  But do you have to carry this 50 years into your future?
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Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2017, 01:58:29 PM »
Definitely legitimately triggering.  But given different circumstances, you could have been the good-old-boy doing the lynching, or the black-fellow getting lynched.  But do you have to carry this 50 years into your future?
I'd like to carry this on into the infinite future.  Racism needs to be defeated.  Of course, in different circumstances I could have been black, a KKK Dragon, a Nazi guard, Hitler, Buffet, Trump, an Indian Outcast, any---well, put in anything.  So fucking what??????  I am what I am (says Popeye), and that is all I can be.  I do think your typing fingers overloads your brain at times--better to say/type something than be silent????
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Online Baruch (OP)

Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2017, 02:20:05 PM »
I'd like to carry this on into the infinite future.  Racism needs to be defeated.  Of course, in different circumstances I could have been black, a KKK Dragon, a Nazi guard, Hitler, Buffet, Trump, an Indian Outcast, any---well, put in anything.  So fucking what??????  I am what I am (says Popeye), and that is all I can be.  I do think your typing fingers overloads your brain at times--better to say/type something than be silent????

Are you are self righteous ... like an avenging angel.  Odd for an atheist.  Archangel Michael would have nothing on you.  Racism isn't the real problem, the real problem is humanity, and that will be taken care of eventually.  I agree, that distinguishing people based on skin color is stupid.  One of our many stupidities.  You simply want to genocide an idea, and you think you have a better reason than Hitler (he wanted to exterminate Jewish banking etc).

A bit like Marx wanting to exterminate all imperfect ideas (communism being perfect).  But to destroy an idea, you have to kill the people too.  Lenin, Stalin and Mao understood this.  To get rid of Russian or Chinese backwardness (traditional society) you had to exterminate a lot of people.  And this is futile, because the idea will constantly re-arise even without mis-parenting or corrupt society.  Lincoln had no such illusions himself.

A Salafist Muslim and you ... would seem to agree on puritanism.  In their case, anything not Sunni Fundie, is evil, and must be eliminated, at any cost.
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Re: Pastor Hillary ...
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2017, 04:10:05 PM »
Are you are self righteous ... like an avenging angel.  Odd for an atheist.  Archangel Michael would have nothing on you.  Racism isn't the real problem, the real problem is humanity, and that will be taken care of eventually.  I agree, that distinguishing people based on skin color is stupid.  One of our many stupidities.  You simply want to genocide an idea, and you think you have a better reason than Hitler (he wanted to exterminate Jewish banking etc).

A bit like Marx wanting to exterminate all imperfect ideas (communism being perfect).  But to destroy an idea, you have to kill the people too.  Lenin, Stalin and Mao understood this.  To get rid of Russian or Chinese backwardness (traditional society) you had to exterminate a lot of people.  And this is futile, because the idea will constantly re-arise even without mis-parenting or corrupt society.  Lincoln had no such illusions himself.

A Salafist Muslim and you ... would seem to agree on puritanism.  In their case, anything not Sunni Fundie, is evil, and must be eliminated, at any cost.
There you go--foaming at the mouth again.  You jump to more conclusions than a drunken frog.  I witness real racism as a child and now I'm an avenging angel.  Okay.  But I'd rather be an avenging Bugs Bunny.  Rattle on, my friend, rattle on.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?