What is Multiculturalism Really About?

Started by pr126, July 12, 2017, 12:41:13 PM

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Cavebear

Quote from: pr126 on July 14, 2017, 01:47:30 PM
Baruch wrote:
Quite correct. However.

For Muslims, the good Muslims are the devout, bad Muslims are hypocrites.
For non-Muslims the good Muslims are the moderate ones, the bad Muslims are the devout (jihadist).
It is all relative. ;>)

Quite correct. However.

For Christians, the good Christian are the devout, bad Christians are hypocrites.
For non-Christians the good Christians are the moderate ones, the bad Christians are the devout (crusaders).
It is all relative. ;>)

Yes it is.  Do you like it that way better?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Shiranu

Quote from: Cavebear on July 14, 2017, 01:56:46 PM
Quite correct. However.

For Christians, the good Christian are the devout, bad Christians are hypocrites.
For non-Christians the good Christians are the moderate ones, the bad Christians are the devout (crusaders).
It is all relative. ;>)

Yes it is.  Do you like it that way better?

I think out of all the people I have encountered online, and I have met fundamentalist Muslims here before, pr is by far the most hardline that a Muslim MUST be an evil human being or they are not true Muslims. If he and a Saudi Wahhabi were to meet, I feel they would be best mates in hating everyone else since they share almost the exact same view of Islam and the Qu'ran. I really do believe he does like it that way, which is terrifying.

I have met no hardline Muslim who is more critical of Muslims not being fundamentalist than pr. As I have said before, it's just a product of his cowardice and hatred that he doesn't realise how moronic of position he is taken. Unfortunately he spews his shit constantly, and he spews shit that has terrible real world consequences of rising violence towards Muslims and Sikhs... two communities I have been relatively heavily involved with and, as just a normal human being, do not want to see violence towards. I really wish I didn't have to "stalk him" and call his shit every time, but I refuse to let myself sink to a moral level that I am indifferent and quiet about bigotry and violence being promoted on a forum I visit, and the day I do is the day I don't deserve to call myself a rational, modern human being.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Cavebear

Quote from: Shiranu on July 14, 2017, 06:44:55 PM
I think out of all the people I have encountered online, and I have met fundamentalist Muslims here before, pr is by far the most hardline that a Muslim MUST be an evil human being or they are not true Muslims. If he and a Saudi Wahhabi were to meet, I feel they would be best mates in hating everyone else since they share almost the exact same view of Islam and the Qu'ran. I really do believe he does like it that way, which is terrifying.

I have met no hardline Muslim who is more critical of Muslims not being fundamentalist than pr. As I have said before, it's just a product of his cowardice and hatred that he doesn't realise how moronic of position he is taken. Unfortunately he spews his shit constantly, and he spews shit that has terrible real world consequences of rising violence towards Muslims and Sikhs... two communities I have been relatively heavily involved with and, as just a normal human being, do not want to see violence towards. I really wish I didn't have to "stalk him" and call his shit every time, but I refuse to let myself sink to a moral level that I am indifferent and quiet about bigotry and violence being promoted on a forum I visit, and the day I do is the day I don't deserve to call myself a rational, modern human being.

Sometimes fire is fought with fire.  Sometimes fire is fought with water.  Sometimes fire is fought with a vacuum (silence) or some combination.  The skilled warrior uses all weapons...

Direct and indirect confuses an opponent.  When he sees a pattern, you change the pattern.  I like to let chaos rain on my opponents.  With drich, it is easy.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on July 14, 2017, 01:47:30 PM
Baruch wrote:
Quite correct. However.

For Muslims, the good Muslims are the devout, bad Muslims are hypocrites.
For non-Muslims the good Muslims are the moderate ones, the bad Muslims are the devout (jihadist).
It is all relative. ;>)

Real Americans want to burn down the houses of Parliament and Buckingham Palace (see War of 1812).  I am not sure a "real" anything is what you want to see.

This is also true for bigoted Jews.  An old story ... a Jewish boy was asking a Jewish dad, why G-d made so many Gentiles.  The father replied "because Hell isn't full yet".  Yeah .. like Meyer Lansky ....good Jews that.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on July 14, 2017, 06:44:55 PM
I think out of all the people I have encountered online, and I have met fundamentalist Muslims here before, pr is by far the most hardline that a Muslim MUST be an evil human being or they are not true Muslims. If he and a Saudi Wahhabi were to meet, I feel they would be best mates in hating everyone else since they share almost the exact same view of Islam and the Qu'ran. I really do believe he does like it that way, which is terrifying.

I have met no hardline Muslim who is more critical of Muslims not being fundamentalist than pr. As I have said before, it's just a product of his cowardice and hatred that he doesn't realise how moronic of position he is taken. Unfortunately he spews his shit constantly, and he spews shit that has terrible real world consequences of rising violence towards Muslims and Sikhs... two communities I have been relatively heavily involved with and, as just a normal human being, do not want to see violence towards. I really wish I didn't have to "stalk him" and call his shit every time, but I refuse to let myself sink to a moral level that I am indifferent and quiet about bigotry and violence being promoted on a forum I visit, and the day I do is the day I don't deserve to call myself a rational, modern human being.

I hope he doesn't believe that all Germans are Nazis, that all Russians are Commies etc.  Usually don't we call that ... stereotyping and bigotry?

OK ... so he wants all moderate Muslims to be bloodthirstily liberals (think anti-fa) who stalk Jihadis and kill them, so non-Muslims don't have to.  Should we apply that rule to other cultures as a comparison ... let all Jews stalk all bad Jews, and if they step out of line, do drum head justice.  Gee, sounds a lot like ISIS to me ;-(
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

PickelledEggs

Quote from: pr126 on July 14, 2017, 02:28:45 AM
I do not think it is nonsense.
You may think so, because you disagree.

Can you accept different opinions?
Scorn and derision is not an argument.

Explaining why the left is superiour to all other ideologies might be.

Or why the destruction of western civilisation is necessary to the brave new world that the left is dreaming of.

That would be great.


There are plenty of things I disagree with that I don't think are nonsense. This is nonsense. You are nonsense.

SoldierofFortune

Multiculturalism is the other name of globalism...
The world is going to phase which all the countries are firmly tied each other...
There will be no borders across the countries at the end...

The considerable quality of any empire is that lots of nation live togetger and depend on the empire...
Multiculturalism is a phase. After that, one culture will come... And one language...
Google is now creating an alphabet that has 400 letters. A common alphabet...

A nice example of multiculturalism is the marriage of Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan...
I do not think the pure german guy likes a relatively ugly chinese girl but he is direkted to marry her just like he didnt found Facebook on his own...

Atheon

Quote from: SoldierofFortune on July 25, 2017, 09:59:11 PM
There will be no borders across the countries at the end...
I certainly hope so. Freedom of movement.

Gene Roddenberry's and John Lennon's dream: the unification of the world.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca

SoldierofFortune

Quote from: Atheon on July 25, 2017, 11:19:01 PM
I certainly hope so. Freedom of movement.

Gene Roddenberry's and John Lennon's dream: the unification of the world.

Nice ideal! OK but thats the question: Who or which group of people will be the leader?

Lenon believed in socialism utopia. It didnt materialise.
But Right wing won, and will determine the goings-on of the world.
Right wing s utopia is a dystopia in reality.

Atheon

It would have to be a democratic republic backed by a strong constitution guaranteeing the freedoms and equal rights of all people. A constitution stronger and clearer than the US has, because we see the outrageous policy of the Republicans despite our Constitution.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca

Baruch

#40
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on July 25, 2017, 09:59:11 PM
Multiculturalism is the other name of globalism...
The world is going to phase which all the countries are firmly tied each other...
There will be no borders across the countries at the end...

The considerable quality of any empire is that lots of nation live togetger and depend on the empire...
Multiculturalism is a phase. After that, one culture will come... And one language...
Google is now creating an alphabet that has 400 letters. A common alphabet...

A nice example of multiculturalism is the marriage of Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan...
I do not think the pure german guy likes a relatively ugly chinese girl but he is direkted to marry her just like he didnt found Facebook on his own...

Modernism aka scifi-ism ... is French Revolution.  Keep your sans-cullottes to yourselves ;-)  Yes, we will all be one people, utopia.  One queen, who produces all offspring, from males temporarily created and disposed of once they are unnecessary.  The offspring being almost all identical cloned infertile female slaves.  The perfect feminism.  A master race fantasy, based on Eve Braun, not Adolf Hitler.  The people here are ... abnormal.  We will be the first to be wood-chipped in your utopias.  And thank G-d, it is the CIA, thru Google, who will bring this about!

Sorry, I would prefer nuclear war to Communism, including the 21st century versions.  People who want one language only!  Kill them all, let none survive the culling.  Funny, how in fact, a one language world, would speak Mandarin.  How much is President Xi paying you for this propaganda?  One currency, the Yuan, as manipulated in the one party state of China.  All the fried rice you can eat.  I fry my rice with nukes however.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#41
Quote from: Atheon on July 25, 2017, 11:58:08 PM
It would have to be a democratic republic backed by a strong constitution guaranteeing the freedoms and equal rights of all people. A constitution stronger and clearer than the US has, because we see the outrageous policy of the Republicans despite our Constitution.

Send all the Democrats to their own island ... Cuba sounds great.  Guantanamo even better, water board them forever, to see what is on the DNC and Hillary emails ;-)  Agenda 21 ... but Democrats get genocided first.  To paraphrase Teddy Roosevelt ... the only good ape man, is a dead ape man, taxidermed in a museum.  Just ask those astronauts.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#42
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on July 25, 2017, 11:42:02 PM
Nice ideal! OK but thats the question: Who or which group of people will be the leader?

Lenon believed in socialism utopia. It didnt materialise.
But Right wing won, and will determine the goings-on of the world.
Right wing s utopia is a dystopia in reality.

All ape men systems are dystopias.  And the perfectibility of humans is disallowed by any examination of history.  There is no progress, just high tech barbarity.  I recognize that I am an ape man who kills other ape men ... do you?  I prefer to kill people with bad puns however ;-))

I am so glad John Lennon died for your sins.  At least you have some kind of savior.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Atheon on July 25, 2017, 11:19:01 PM
I certainly hope so. Freedom of movement.

Gene Roddenberry's and John Lennon's dream: the unification of the world.

So you are a Pakistani economic opportunist pretending to be a Syrian refugee?  Who knew?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

pr126

#44
Another globalist?
Be careful what you wish for.

If it turns out a distopia, which would be very likely, there is nowhere to run.