Author Topic: People with nice cars using food stamps  (Read 303 times)

Online Cavebear

Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2017, 07:03:39 AM »
To the casual grocery shopper seeing someone buy expensive food, steaks, seafood and so on then getting into an expensive vehicle always seems like it should be illegal, but there's a little back story behind who these people typically are. They aren't who you think.
Anyone who has ever had to use food stamps to put food on the table for any length of time will tell you that they've had to sell their food stamps on the black market probably more than once and very likely every month.
Well I'm going to shock you and tell you just who drives a nice car and buys expensive food with food stamps..They're people who buy food stamps on the black market for half price or less. They are NOT that poor mother with 3 kids barely getting by. They're the guy down the street who sees the opportunity to get their food for half price or less.
You really want to clamp down on fraud with food stamps?  Make buying food stamps on the black market a federal crime, but the problem with this is the people forced to sell their groceries for half price are then stuck trying to come up with emergency cash another way.
Yeah, I know..nothing really shocking about this especially if you ever grew up in poverty, but it certainly busts the myth of the welfare queen. The real welfare queens are the people who exploit poor folks with their backs to the wall every day of the year.
The reason this came to mind is an article in the Guardian about food stamps and the so called shame associated with it. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/12/food-stamps-poverty-america-shame?CMP

Provide proof.  Few people are dumb enough to sell food stamps at discount.  You can buy darn near anything with food stamps. 

I "suspect" you are listening to too much 'Fox News".
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Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2017, 08:53:15 AM »
The observation of people using food stamps and getting into nice cars sounds purely anecdotal to me. Seeing someone using food stamps and then stalking them to see what they drive away in? Keeping records as to what percentage of stalkees do that? Having reliable records that can be cross-checked with independent witnesses? Etc.

I'm skeptical that this happens much, if at all. I do remember the parking lot outside the food stamp office looked like Western Australia.
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Online Cavebear

Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2017, 02:31:42 PM »
The observation of people using food stamps and getting into nice cars sounds purely anecdotal to me. Seeing someone using food stamps and then stalking them to see what they drive away in? Keeping records as to what percentage of stalkees do that? Having reliable records that can be cross-checked with independent witnesses? Etc.

I'm skeptical that this happens much, if at all. I do remember the parking lot outside the food stamp office looked like Western Australia.
And what did Western Australia look like?
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Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2017, 06:00:28 PM »
And what did Western Australia look like?
I think it looks great-----especially when I just took it over and gained the continent of Australia in Risk. 
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Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Online Cavebear

Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2017, 07:06:39 PM »
I think it looks great-----especially when I just took it over and gained the continent of Australia in Risk.
Outstanding move!  Are you planning to move up the coast or west to take India?  Where do you play?
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Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2017, 08:14:54 PM »
Outstanding move!  Are you planning to move up the coast or west to take India?  Where do you play?
My favorite is to simply keep Australia as an isolated source of income.  I really like to get the US next--and Latin America if possible.  I tend to stay away from Africa and Europe and especially Asia until the end game.   If I remember right, the US and Latin America together have only 3 points to guard.  Europe has 5 and Africa has 3--and Asia is just impossible to guard.

Sadly I have not played in 25 years or so.  Just can't find anybody to play.  As a child we used to play this game days on end--my dad loved games and with 5 brothers it was pretty easy to get another game going.  But little since then.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2017, 08:28:41 PM »
And what did Western Australia look like?
Let's put it this way, they have 200 years worth of iron ore out there.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Online Cavebear

Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2017, 08:31:07 PM »
My favorite is to simply keep Australia as an isolated source of income.  I really like to get the US next--and Latin America if possible.  I tend to stay away from Africa and Europe and especially Asia until the end game.   If I remember right, the US and Latin America together have only 3 points to guard.  Europe has 5 and Africa has 3--and Asia is just impossible to guard.

Sadly I have not played in 25 years or so.  Just can't find anybody to play.  As a child we used to play this game days on end--my dad loved games and with 5 brothers it was pretty easy to get another game going.  But little since then.

I like to start with NA, then ruin SA and Asia and EU for others.  Annoys them greatly.

I can tell you where to play.
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Online Cavebear

Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2017, 08:32:30 PM »
Let's put it this way, they have 200 years worth of iron ore out there.

That's just rust.  Oh wait...
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Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2017, 09:03:17 PM »
I like to start with NA, then ruin SA and Asia and EU for others.  Annoys them greatly.

I can tell you where to play.
Yeah, that's a good way.  I also remember trying to keep track of the other players cards so that I could pounce when I could wipe them out and get their cards and turn in a set for more men.  Of course how one plays is dictated by your starting setup and how the others play. 

I like to play the board games face-to-face; not wild about computer opponents.  Do you play via the computer?  And why not come on over one evening and we can get going! :))
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Online Cavebear

Re: People with nice cars using food stamps
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2017, 09:15:41 PM »
Yeah, that's a good way.  I also remember trying to keep track of the other players cards so that I could pounce when I could wipe them out and get their cards and turn in a set for more men.  Of course how one plays is dictated by your starting setup and how the others play. 

I like to play the board games face-to-face; not wild about computer opponents.  Do you play via the computer?  And why not come on over one evening and we can get going! :))

At pogo.com, you can play bots or people, but with people you have to schedule it a bit lately.  There used to be more people there every night. 

But *I* can meet you there sometime.  Just takes a mutual time.  I would say "now", but I've been online 24 hours and seriously crashing.  I mean I can type, but there isn't much logic left in me.  LOL!
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