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Offline pr126 (OP)

Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« on: June 26, 2017, 12:05:40 AM »
Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR, National Police Commissioner: “HELP US, HELP US!”
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Sweden is being torn to pieces by Muslim immigrants and refugees. Law enforcement is crying out for help, and it is only a question of time before the country will need military intervention from abroad in order to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe.

10News Update

A leaked report concludes that the number of lawless areas (commonly referred to as, “no-go zones”) in Sweden now totals 61. That is up from 55 in just one year’s time. This increase includes, not only the total number, but also the geographical size of these areas.

Sweden’s National Police Commissioner, Dan Eliasson, spoke on national television and pleaded for assistance: “Help us, help us!” he said while warning that Swedish police forces no longer can uphold the law and therefore must ask all good powers in the country to support them.

A research expert regarding destabilized countries and 2011 recipient of Sweden’s Order of the Seraphim medal, Johan Patrik Engellau, has been working with organizations like the UN and others that operate in crisis areas. He warns:

“I’m afraid it is the end for the well-organized, decent and egalitarian Sweden we have known so far. Personally, I would not be surprised if a form of civil war occurs. In some places, the civil war has probably already begun.”

10News recently reported how the Swedish state has lost large areas to armed, religious groups best described as Islamist militias. Police chief Lars Alversjø says that, “There is lawlessness in parts of Stockholm (Sweden’s capital) now.” He also observed how, “The legal system, which is a pillar in every democratic society, is collapsing in Sweden.” Per Magnus Ranstorp, a researcher into terrorism and radicalization at the Swedish National Defense College, notes: “In the worst areas extremists have taken over. The whole sense of justice and peace are threatened by the fact that the police is breaking down and it’s only getting worse. Sweden is in a disastrous situation.”

The Swedish Security Service (Säkerhetspolisen – abbreviated as Säpo), recently warned that the country is crawling with “thousands of Islamists” sharing Islamic State’s ideology. In many places, public servants (i.e., non-Islamic authorities) require police protection.

In related news: Sweden Changing: 150,000 Women Undergo FGM, Authorities Admit Large Areas UNDER ISLAMIST RULE

The word that Swedish authorities and media use for the country’s “no-go zones” is utenforskap. The word means something like “excluded area”. In these areas Swedish law has been replaced with a mixture of the law of the jungle and the Islamic legal code, sharia. Armed Muslim gangs and Islamic radicals are simply carving out big pieces of Sweden for themselves. The only reason why it has not evolved into large-scale armed conflicts—in this formerly peaceful and safe country—probably relates to how Sweden’s feminist-liberal government is not putting up any real resistance against the Islamists.

Even if the Swedish feminist government chose to fight back tomorrow, Sweden has nothing close to the paramilitary capacity needed to reverse this situation. That 80 percent of the country’s law enforcement officers are considering quitting their jobs is a clear sign of a police force that is completely demoralized. The military in this traditionally pacifist country is cut down to almost nothing, and there is no money to fix it.

As Johan Patrik Engellau puts it: “The government does not seem to understand that it has lost control. There is a point where you can no longer stop a situation’s development. I do not know if Sweden has reached this point when it comes to [the consequences of] immigration, but I fear we are drawing close. If we right here and now take and clear and powerful action – including stopping immigration and the political promotion of multiculturalism – we might with some difficulty be able to save Sweden.”

The fact remains that Sweden’s political elite is nowhere near taking such decisive action, as it has not even started to openly speak out about these problems.

Therefore Sweden will very soon need help from abroad. Police chief Dan Eliasson’s prayer for help only included potential partners inside Sweden, but very soon the international community will have to intervene if a humanitarian catastrophe is to be avoided.
‘War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.' 1984

Offline Shiranu

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2017, 02:07:15 AM »
Funny how there are no links to the Swedish chief saying that, besides the one in article which doesn't link to that video. To call several other links in the article "questionable" is at best an understatement.

Of course, if you look at actual comments by Swedish police officers, there are certainly "vulnerable" zones that they despise the use of "no-go zone" name being used for, and that they do need increased resources and more cooperation with the government to address, and large sections of that do involve immigrant populations. However these "vulnerable" zones also include local criminal organizations and members and not just Muslims or even immigrants.

Pr, you are like the buzzfeed of bigotry. Just waiting on you to post a thread saying, "Scientist says this one little trick makes a Muslim an insta-radical! Liberals hate him! Click here for 21 ways to fear foreigners!".
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 02:44:01 AM by Shiranu »
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Offline Atheon

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2017, 02:22:29 AM »
What a steaming, fly-infested pile of sensationalistic, fear-mongering bullshit that article is. Only a blithering fool would give it credence. It even perpetuates the long-debunked myth of "no-go zones" that even Fox News had to retract.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 02:24:37 AM by Atheon »
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Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2017, 04:30:12 AM »
Some more steaming, fly-infested pile of sensationalistic, fear-mongering bullshit.

If CNN doesn't report it, it didn't happen.
 

Sweden Changing: 150,000 Women Undergo FGM, Authorities Admit Large Areas UNDER ISLAMIST RULE
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A new report provides disturbing insights regarding changes in the fabric of Swedish society that have followed an unprecedented influx of Muslim refugees and migrants.

The report is partly written by SVT, the Swedish state media, and concludes that at least 150,000 women in Sweden have experienced genital mutilation. This brutal procedure can involve partial or complete removal of the clitoris (i.e., clitoridectomy, clitorectomy or infibulation) plus excision of the labia as well. All too often, this operation is performed in less-than-sterile conditions and, just as frequently, without anesthesia.

Authorities are astonished by the high number of women and young girls who have been subjected to FGM. A report from 2015 concluded that “only” 38,000 women had experienced genital mutilation. This sharp increase most likely results from the determination of Swedish politicians to comply with the UN’s Refugee Convention and EU regulations on refugee quotas.

Sweden has a population of 10 million (five million women and girls).

Swedish tolerance and openness has been up for international debate since American President Donald J. Trump used the country as an example of how refugees and migration from Islamic countries corrodes the rule of law and contributes to the formation of Middle Eastern enclaves, even in strong civil societies like those of Northern Europe.

Big areas of Sweden are now under de facto Islamic rule. Stockholm, Sweden’s capital, is almost completely surrounded by areas (commonly called “no-go zones”) that are veritably ruled by Muslim gangs and Islamic sharia police. “There is lawlessness in parts of the Stockholm region now,” a nervous police chief, Lars Alvarsjø, said. “There are some areas where we seem to lose control.”

Lawless areas in Sweden are growing in size and number every year. From 2015 to 2017 they increased from 15 to 23. According to the Swedish authorities, “religious police have taken the role as law enforcement” in many areas now.

Lars Alversjø says that “the legal system, which is a pillar in every democratic society, is collapsing in Sweden.” Per Magnus Ranstorp, a researcher of terrorism and radicalization at the Swedish National Defense College, elaborates: “In the worst areas extremists have taken over. The whole sense of justice and peace are threatened by the fact that the police is breaking down and it’s only getting worse. Sweden is in a disastrous situation.”

In areas under Islamic rule within Sweden, human rights are rapidly deteriorating, especially for women. Female genital mutilation is just one horrific example of a general change in the Swedish society following the arrival of large numbers of Muslims refugees or migrants.

“In many areas, self-appointed sharia police threaten and harass women to follow Islamic law, Sharia. Threats and harassment can be the consequence if you are not married, if your legs are not covered or if you drink a glass of alcohol on your balcony. Neighbors, strangers, even children and adolescents, threaten women to follow Sharia. If the women do not comply, the sharia police increase their intimidations. A woman tells how a group of men climbed into her apartment by using the drainage pipe and confronted her in her own home because she refused to comply to their demands.”



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Offline Atheon

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2017, 05:55:20 AM »
Yup, another heaping helping of garbage. Throw it in the bin where it belongs.

That "news" site is psychotic.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 05:56:53 AM by Atheon »
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Offline Munch

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2017, 07:05:02 AM »
It might be a fear mongering article, but you can't ignore the state of things across Europe caused by the mass immigration.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2017/06/economist-explains-20

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TENSIONS were running high when your correspondent visited Sweden at the height of Europe’s migrant crisis, in late 2015. Although most Swedes happily accepted the 163,000 asylum-seekers who arrived in their country that year, others were far less welcoming. In Malmo, a heavily immigrant city in the south, one cashier in a local shop was particularly angry. “They are just here for welfare and benefits,” he said, before telling your correspondent to “get out”. Such language was once the preserve of politicians from the far-right Sweden Democrats party, which has capitalised on the crisis to boost its support. Since then the government has been trying to adapt the Swedish welfare state to suit the times: both to accommodate hundreds of thousands of refugees and to try to diminish such right-wing sentiment. What is changing?

Swedes are rightly proud of their welfare state. The “Scandinavian model” combines high taxes, collective bargaining and a fairly open economy. The result is excellent living standards, high wages and impressive rates of female labour-force participation (parental leave is generous for both sexes). Its reputation has leftist politicians elsewhere filled with envy: Bernie Sanders has cited Sweden, and its neighbour Denmark, as his ideal of “social democracy”. Yet the system has long been in need of reform. Like much of Europe, Sweden has an ageing workforce. Decades of under-construction has sent house prices soaring in Stockholm and other cities. High wages leave many unskilled workers, both Swedish and foreign-born, on the fringes of the labour market.


The first response by the centre-left coalition government to the overwhelming influx of refugees in 2015 was to close the border with Denmark. This was seen as an extreme measure: the deputy prime minister, Asa Romson, cried when announcing the move at a press conference. Since then it has also tried to tweak welfare spending. Previously, failed asylum-seekers received a monthly cash benefit of around 1,200 SEK ($140) and housing; this was scrapped last year. On May 31st the government voted to limit paid parental leave for immigrants: previously, refugees could claim the full amount of paid leave (480 days per child under the age of eight). Now they can only do so if the child is under one year old. For big families the benefits will be limited further.

 These tweaks, however, do not tackle the biggest problem Sweden faces in integrating new arrivals: its rigid labour market. Many refugees do not have the skills or connections to enter the workforce. Sweden has one of the largest gaps in employment between native and foreign-born workers. This damages the welfare state not only because fewer foreign-born workers pay taxes, but also because some Swedes, like the cynical cashier in Malmo, resent their new neighbours and lose trust in the state. If Sweden is to remain exceptional—for its high living standards and generous attitude to people fleeing barrel bombs—far bigger changes are needed.

The belief that having many people coming to a country will create jobs and help businesses thrive doesn't work when those migrants simply don't want to work or even integrate, and bleed money from the countries infrastructure and resources they have no intent on giving back to. And when its this many people, not just a small group, but millions of people, then it will have a negative impact.

And if they just keep coming, and coming, and coming, jobs won't be created for them, they will just end up fucking themselves over and the country they flock to.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 07:07:05 AM by Munch »

Offline Baruch

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2017, 07:10:54 AM »
Just understand the under-text ...

All Marxists everywhere, want all Capitalism dead, dead, dead.  They are willing to overturn society into chaos to achieve their evil ends (French revolution everywhere, and Robespierre in power everywhere).  Socialist are baby Marxists.  And their most specific goal is to destroy all English speaking countries (Five Eyes) as has been the plan for over 100 years now (because British Empire then, American Empire now).

Find all the Marxists.  Create a Gulag in Alaska/Canada .. and send them there.

Meanwhile back in Sweden, haven't heard from my Swedish contact in over a year (the blog we were both on is caput).  So I have no facts to share.  But it is possible that Sweden has been too boring a country, since Czar Peter kicked their asses as Poltava.  Maybe Russia should invade Sweden, as a return favor for the past invasion of Russia by Sweden, and Swedish support for Hitler too.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 07:17:50 AM by Baruch »
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Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2017, 09:43:11 AM »
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 10:07:39 AM by pr126 »
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Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2017, 10:02:56 AM »
Yup, another heaping helping of garbage. Throw it in the bin where it belongs.

That "news" site is psychotic.

Where do you get your facts from?
‘War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.' 1984

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2017, 10:51:46 AM »
Can we have an alt-facts subforum? "From pr126's sphincter" for a title?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Offline Baruch

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2017, 12:52:08 PM »
Can we have an alt-facts subforum? "From pr126's sphincter" for a title?

How about a alt-facts subforum? "From DNC sphincter" for a title?  Only fair if we also have the "From RNC sphincter" also ;-)
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Offline pr126 (OP)

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2017, 01:34:39 PM »
Some people try avoid reality at all cost. Too disturbing.

‘War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.' 1984

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2017, 03:13:24 PM »
Some people try avoid reality at all cost. Too disturbing.


You fascists love that FUD, don't you.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2017, 03:40:21 PM »
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Shiranu

Re: Sweden on the Brink of CIVIL WAR
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2017, 04:40:59 PM »
Some people try avoid reality at any cost...

I'm glad you said that with a sense of self-reflective irony and deprecating humour. That would be a really awkward thing for you to say seriously.
"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..." - Nelson Mandela

"Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be." - Miguel de Cervantes