Author Topic: We Are Sikhs  (Read 124 times)

Online Shiranu (OP)

We Are Sikhs
« on: June 10, 2017, 03:25:55 PM »
It's disgraceful that in 2017 we have to have commercials and organizations informing Americans that a group of people that have been in the U.S. for 100-something years aren't terrorists, Muslims, or scary others because they have repeatedly had their property vandalized and have been assaulted and killed.

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Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2017, 04:23:33 PM »
Sikhs are derivative of Guru Nanak ... who borrowed from both Islam and Hinduism.  Both of which are fundamentally un-American.  But I do think that the beards and turbans of Sikh men are cool ;-)
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Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2017, 07:36:36 PM »
Where I live we have a large population of Sikhs.  I do remember that there was a big dust-up about their carrying a kirpan (small knife).  The red-necks of the area thought it was horrible that they could carry knives.  Anyway, it soon became a non-issue.
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Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
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Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2017, 07:38:05 PM »
Where I live we have a large population of Sikhs.  I do remember that there was a big dust-up about their carrying a kirpan (small knife).  The red-necks of the area thought it was horrible that they could carry knives.  Anyway, it soon became a non-issue.

Yeah, red necks never carry knives (think Crocodile Dundee).
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Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2017, 10:09:16 PM »
Yeah, red necks never carry knives (think Crocodile Dundee).
Of course red-necks carry knives.  They just don't want anybody else to.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Cavebear

Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2017, 06:30:03 AM »
Of course red-necks carry knives.  They just don't want anybody else to.
Like police shoot people how have permits to carry guns...  You get stopped and declare you have a gun and a permit?  You are dead.
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Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2017, 06:56:24 AM »
Like police shoot people how have permits to carry guns...  You get stopped and declare you have a gun and a permit?  You are dead.
I see you like that myth. A rabid cop hater at AF.org provided the data to show that on any given day in the US you have 1/110,000,000 chances of being killed by a policeman.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2017, 07:17:05 AM »
I see you like that myth. A rabid cop hater at AF.org provided the data to show that on any given day in the US you have 1/110,000,000 chances of being killed by a policeman.
The odds don't matter if you are the ONE stopped by a cop who shoots in panic hearing a person stating honestly when questioned that he has a gun even legitimately.  The defense was that the policeman had a right to panic upon hearing there was a gun in the car.

Would the driver have been shot if he was white and looked like a PI?  Really?

No, and that's the rub. 

When black guys get shot for carrying a gun IN STATES WHERE IT IS LEGAL TO CARRY ONE OPENLY or with permits, something is seriously wrong.  And when the police get off for killing a law-abiding citizen, that is wrong.  I want that cop in jail for murder.

And I'm not in favor of every yahoo carrying guns for no good reason. 

I'm a older white guy.  But I'll be damned if I will accept the police acting like they have a 007 license-to-kill!
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Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2017, 08:40:32 AM »
I see you like that myth. A rabid cop hater at AF.org provided the data to show that on any given day in the US you have 1/110,000,000 chances of being killed by a policeman.

Life is 100% fatal.  I don't fear cops, I have a nephew who is a cop.  But I respect anyone carrying heat.  Including the nice gate guard at work carrying a loaded M-16.
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Re: We Are Sikhs
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2017, 08:42:51 AM »
The odds don't matter if you are the ONE stopped by a cop who shoots in panic hearing a person stating honestly when questioned that he has a gun even legitimately.  The defense was that the policeman had a right to panic upon hearing there was a gun in the car.

Would the driver have been shot if he was white and looked like a PI?  Really?

No, and that's the rub. 

When black guys get shot for carrying a gun IN STATES WHERE IT IS LEGAL TO CARRY ONE OPENLY or with permits, something is seriously wrong.  And when the police get off for killing a law-abiding citizen, that is wrong.  I want that cop in jail for murder.

And I'm not in favor of every yahoo carrying guns for no good reason. 

I'm a older white guy.  But I'll be damned if I will accept the police acting like they have a 007 license-to-kill!

Sorry you are triggered ;-(  All Americans are guilty ... see IRS law.  When I am stopped by the police anywhere, I simply freeze in a relaxed way, do nothing, say nothing.  Panic isn't a good idea, it makes you look guilty (and you are).  And yes, police are imperfect.  Just ask the DoD ... we bomb weddings and hospitals all the time (oops!).
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