Author Topic: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match  (Read 645 times)

Offline Unbeliever (OP)

Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« on: May 25, 2017, 06:07:24 PM »
I didn't know where else to put this, so here it is. I thought some of you might enjoy it a bit:







Willie was such a gentleman, but Fats was kind of an asshole - he reminds me of Archie Bunker, a little. I figure those of a certain age will recognize the moderator's voice right away.
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Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2017, 11:18:57 PM »
I hated Howard the first time I saw/heard him.  But after awhile I grew to like him and he ended up as one of my favorite commentators. 
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Offline SGOS

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2017, 08:47:26 AM »
Jackie Gleason and Paul Newman had a lot more class.
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Offline trdsf

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2017, 01:16:02 PM »
Cosell is still the default voice for many sporting events inside my head.  :)

(Not golf, though -- that's a blend of Jim Nantz, Gary McCord, David Feherty, Dottie Pepper, Peter Oosterhuis and Verne Lundquist)
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Offline Unbeliever (OP)

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2017, 07:11:45 PM »
Jackie Gleason and Paul Newman had a lot more class.

I think The Baltimore Bullet was a much better pool movie:



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Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 07:30:41 PM »
Cosell is still the default voice for many sporting events inside my head.  :)

(Not golf, though -- that's a blend of Jim Nantz, Gary McCord, David Feherty, Dottie Pepper, Peter Oosterhuis and Verne Lundquist)
Yeah, I really enjoyed his relationship with Ali:


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Offline Cavebear

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2017, 01:44:25 PM »
Easily the most surprising thread I've ever read here...  What brought this to mind?
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Offline Unbeliever (OP)

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2017, 03:55:49 PM »
Pure chance - stochasticity?
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2017, 03:21:33 AM »
Pure chance - stochasticity?

Reminds me of a radio show I heard in the 60s where an announcer described boxing matches between champions who never met each other.  LOL!
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Offline Baruch

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2017, 06:50:06 AM »
Reminds me of a radio show I heard in the 60s where an announcer described boxing matches between champions who never met each other.  LOL!

Reagan's first job, was a radio announcer for sports events, that had already finished earlier in the day.  He used his imagination to impart excitement to the listeners.
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Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2017, 09:29:50 AM »
Reminds me of a radio show I heard in the 60s where an announcer described boxing matches between champions who never met each other.  LOL!
Yeah, I remember that.  And they also had baseball teams that had never met and NFL football, too, I think.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2017, 12:49:37 PM »
Yeah, I remember that.  And they also had baseball teams that had never met and NFL football, too, I think.

Given that degree of psyops ... why do you believe anything you believe about what happened in the 60s?  Today politics has become a sport.  And what you describe is early fantasy league.  Applied to politics, wouldn't this basically be totally irrational?  Like arranging the ideal D candidate against the ideal R candidate, but being a positive or negative ideal, depending on your fandom?
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Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2017, 01:27:16 PM »
Given that degree of psyops ... why do you believe anything you believe about what happened in the 60s?  Today politics has become a sport.  And what you describe is early fantasy league.  Applied to politics, wouldn't this basically be totally irrational?  Like arranging the ideal D candidate against the ideal R candidate, but being a positive or negative ideal, depending on your fandom?
No, what I remember are early simulations, not fantasy.  As I recall, Strat-O-Matic was used for the baseball replays and I think for the NFL, too--not sure.  And the results were broadcast as tho it were happening then.  Fantasy sports did not come along until rotisserie baseball.   
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline SGOS

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2017, 03:46:28 PM »
I think The Baltimore Bullet was a much better pool movie:
I will disagree with you on this one.  I just watched the movie from your Utube link.  I will say I did enjoy it, but you really can't compare it to The Hustler, which was serious drama all the way through.  This had a more Abbot and Costello meet Milton Berle  slapstick feel.  I enjoyed the big breasted space cadet at the very beginning.  There's something about a woman like that leaning over a pool table that drips with sensuality, and she milked it as much as possible  for a movie made in 1980.  I also enjoyed the fight scene in the room of mirrors at the fun house.  It was very clever photography.  And I always liked James Colburn.

Offline Unbeliever (OP)

Re: Minnesota Fats vs Willie Mosconi - Legendary Match
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2017, 04:12:50 PM »
Oops, sorry I missed this earlier.

I just think it's the actual pool itself that was better, not necessarily the movie. Both were pretty damned good, and there are too few pool-themed movies out there.
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