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Would I have gone to prison?

Started by MyelinSheath, May 15, 2017, 06:36:10 AM

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Baruch

Quote from: SGOS on May 16, 2017, 10:04:29 AM
Don't fuck with bikers.  They can be very sensitive about their rights on the road.  Their risky exposure to dangerous accidents already puts them under increased stress, and this can make them sensitive to the many drivers who ignore them.  I would have sincerely apologized, and hoped for the best.  It's possible that you didn't really cut him off, depending on how far back he was, but I wasn't there.  It's possible that he was prone to road rage.  While road rage is not an accident, it might be a red flag.  I'd certainly consider my part in it.

The biker I know, legally carries heat.  And he is a veteran .. no mess with him!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: MyelinSheath on May 16, 2017, 01:16:33 AM
What can I say? You guys were determined that I was the evil party from the beginning. There's not a single post were any of you allowed for the possibility that he could have been in the wrong.

Don't join the American "I am a bigger victim than you" club.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

PickelledEggs

Quote from: Hydra009 on May 16, 2017, 09:04:59 AM
Does hypothetically killing baby Hitler count?
Abort all babies.

PopeyesPappy

Quote from: MyelinSheath on May 15, 2017, 06:36:10 AM
Today, the worst incident I've ever had on the road occurred. I was trying merge into the left turning lane at a traffic light and there was a guy on a motorcycle (with his girlfriend on the back) about 2 car lengths behind me already in the left turning lane. I give my signal with ample time for him to see it and start aiming my nose in so as to indicate I'm trying to get in. The guy keeps going and doesn't let me in. I have to get over so I try my best ease in. We get stopped at the red light light, and the guy pulls right up beside my truck and screams at me, "I'm going to drag you out of that piece of shit truck and beat the shit out of you!" This angered me so I flipped him the bird and said "fuck you". So he proceeded to turn off his motorcycle and get off to come "drag me out my truck"
I guess. I darted off when he did this because the guy was obviously bigger than me and could have destroyed me. But I couldn't help but think afterwards that if I had had a gun I could have pulled out  and pointed at him when he tried to walk to my truck, he would have immediately become not such a tough guy anymore. Would I have been in the wrong had I done this? What if he was beating on my truck trying to get in and I shot him? Would I have committed and big crime? Or would it have been viewed as self defense? What if I had killed him? It's just hypothetical. Thanks.

The original aggressor is only allowed to use a self defense as an affirmative defense under certain circumstance. Were you the original aggressor? Many of your peers in a potential jury pool would probably think so if you tried to force your way into a someone else's lane knowing they were there. You didn't help a self defense claim any when you flipped them off either. On top of all that you obviously had the opportunity to disengage by driving off.

If you were the original aggressor then shot the guy knowing you could have safely disengaged you wouldn't want me on the jury at your trial because I'd want your ass off the street.
Save a life. Adopt a Greyhound.

MyelinSheath

I was wrong. The biker was perfect. I deserved to have him knock every tooth in my head out. I'm an evil murderer and I intentionally tried to kill him. Thanks for only looking at it from his point of view. I mean why would you even consider the point of view of an evil murderer like me?


PopeyesPappy

lol

I wasn't looking at it from either of your POV's Myelin. I was looking at it from a lawful/moral perspective. If you think I've got the lawful part of it wrong then look up original aggressor and self defense in the US. As far as moral goes a person gives up their right to be aggressive except as a last resort when they choose to arm themselves with a gun. You strap on a gun then go pick a fight where you might have to use it you were wrong.
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MyelinSheath

Someone please delete my account right now. I will be damned if I'm going to stay here and listen to people insinuate that I'm a could-be murder. I've never harmed anyone in my entire life. I've never even been in a fight ever. And I have had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to be in such situations. I have always turned the other cheek and avoided violence. Not a single goddamn post in this fucking thread ever even attempted to look at things from my point of view. I was an evil scumbag murderer from the beginning. I mean, almost everyone in this thread asserted a priori that I intended to kill the man by merging. How fucking dare you? I'll be damned if I will remain a part of this piece of shit community. Fuck every single one of you.

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: MyelinSheath on May 16, 2017, 03:32:53 PM
Someone please delete my account right now. I will be damned if I'm going to stay here and listen to people insinuate that I'm a could-be murder. I've never harmed anyone in my entire life. I've never even been in a fight ever. And I have had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to be in such situations. I have always turned the other cheek and avoided violence. Not a single goddamn post in this fucking thread ever even attempted to look at things from my point of view. I was an evil scumbag murderer from the beginning. I mean, almost everyone in this thread asserted a priori that I intended to kill the man by merging. How fucking dare you? I'll be damned if I will remain a part of this piece of shit community. Fuck every single one of you.

You could have just stopped replying and never return, rather than throwing this tantrum and demanding to be deleted. That is telling, you realize?

The only value this forum holds, the only value we hold... The only value our words hold... Is the value you put in yourself.

Be at peace Sheath. Stop looking to the outside for confirmation or adoration.
Stop worrying.
Just be.

And goodbye.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

PopeyesPappy

Quote from: MyelinSheath on May 16, 2017, 03:32:53 PM
Someone please delete my account right now. I will be damned if I'm going to stay here and listen to people insinuate that I'm a could-be murder. I've never harmed anyone in my entire life. I've never even been in a fight ever. And I have had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to be in such situations. I have always turned the other cheek and avoided violence. Not a single goddamn post in this fucking thread ever even attempted to look at things from my point of view. I was an evil scumbag murderer from the beginning. I mean, almost everyone in this thread asserted a priori that I intended to kill the man by merging. How fucking dare you? I'll be damned if I will remain a part of this piece of shit community. Fuck every single one of you.

[mod]No we won't delete your account because you got butt hurt.[/mod]

If you didn't want our opinions you shouldn't have asked.
Save a life. Adopt a Greyhound.

MyelinSheath

Quote from: PopeyesPappy on May 16, 2017, 03:41:24 PM
[mod]No we won't delete your account because you got butt hurt.[/mod]

If you didn't want our opinions you shouldn't have asked.
And with that, I'm gone. Thanks.

PopeyesPappy

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Save a life. Adopt a Greyhound.

MyelinSheath

Quote from: PopeyesPappy on May 16, 2017, 04:00:31 PM
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Oh go eat a bag of dicks.

Hakurei Reimu

Sheesh, what a dick. MyelinSheath was in a bigger, heavier vehicle, reasonably well-protected from harm in this kind of situation, edging into a space that did not belong to him, against someone on (not in, on) a vehicle that even under the best of circumstances any accident would likely result in serious injury to him and his girlfriend. He edged toward the other guy's lane a bit, but the other guy didn't give MS the right of way. When Mr. Biker did not give up his right of way to MS, MS edged in further. MyelinSheath was making moves consistent with threatening Mr. Biker with grave bodily harm should he not give up his right of way to him. Of course he's going to get pissed off at you, MyelinSheath.

The rule of the road is that right of way is always given, not taken, and MyelinSheath was trying to take right of way that wasn't his. Anyone on the jury who understands the above calculus, or is sympathetic to motorcyclists, or realizes that MyelinSheath could have adequately protected himself from harm by locking his truck doors, is not going to be very sympathetic to a defendant who somehow turns this rather minor traffic incident into one where a dead body is involved.

The motorcyclist might not have been a saint, but the end result is that no beating actually occurred, his bluster notwithstanding. You, MyelinSheath, were the only one who was openly contemplating turning anyone into a corpse. You'll get no sympathy from us.
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Unbeliever

Quote from: Baruch on May 15, 2017, 10:38:31 PM
I hope that is sarcasm ;-(
Abandon hope, and you will be closer to the truth.
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Unbeliever

Quote from: Baruch on May 15, 2017, 10:39:35 PM
Doesn't apply unless you live in your car ;-(
What if you live in someone else's car?
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