100 Days and Counting

[Cavebear]

The Donald's Isle

Just sit right back
And you’ll hear a tale
A tale of a sad election,
That started from 2014
And screwed a whole nation.

The campaign sure was getting rough
The  anger was quite crossed
If not for the lies and the FBI
The Hillary would be Boss.

It went to the Electoral College,
A partisan affair.
Who lost their purpose of to stop
Insane voting there.
The Donald, the Clinton too,
The Bernie and McCain,
The Rubio, the Others too,
Here on The Donald’s Isle!

So here is the cast of our crazy world.
Here for a long long time.
We have to make the best of it,
Until The Donald is shown to have been working with the Russians, loving authoritarians, hating facts, firing those who investigate him, and putting stooges in their place, while lying to the press, ignoring facts, saying one thing one day and another the next, creating timelines in reverse,  prevaricating,  insulting honorable people and basically insulting the intelligence of most people here and abroad.

Here On Donald Trump’s Isle!

[Baruch]

I would like to think the disaster is the result of ignorance and lack of education.  That would offer some hope; ignorance can be addressed.  Education can be gained.  But I understand that the average campaign supporter had an income in the 70,000 range.  That is well above average and not a reflection of ignorance or lack of education.  I am deeply afraid that stupidity now has a strangle hold on this country.  Ignorance can be fixed; stupidity simply cannot.  Personally, I have a feeling of doom I've not experienced before.  I hated Bush and still do; but my feeling for drump is much deeper and more fearful.  Drump seems to have his finger on the pulse on the stupidity of this country and can use it at his will; to say he is/will be the worst president we have had is an insult to the Nixon's and Buchanan's of the world.  He has one goal and that is to enrich himself and his family beyond all belief.  And he is on his way.  I do fear for my country.

Trickle down economics .. pee-on.  No, what is lacking, is strength of character.  That can't be taught from a book.  And some characteristics of a population, are increased, because of culling the bottom of the gaussian distribution, which moves the mean higher.  Worked in American Revolution, Civil War, Depression/WW II.

Fear, it is the mind killer.  It comes from within, not from without.  The US has been a flaming shit sack my whole life .. not just recently.  My reaction to that depended on my age, my personal situation.  My age advances, my personal situation goes up, down, all around.  My perspective changes, the nature of humanity does not.

[Baruch]

Roughly 100 million people moving into a country of 35 million.  Sounds like a reasonable, workable solution.

Immigrants have a right to go to any country they want ... host nations have no rights ;-)  Look at a map, the existing Canadians can move farther north to make room, thanks to global warming ;-)

[Baruch]

I think the problem is not solved by moving. The financial distribution in the US is getting completely out of control. Thomas Piketty writes in "Capital in the 21st Century" that from 1977 to 2007, 60% (!) of the total income in the US went to the top 1%!  Unsustainable. Sooner or later even the dimmest dolts have to realize that they are taken for a ride. And instead of working and uniting to change all that, 60 million vote for Trump who's first 17 appointees represent more wealth than 47% of Americans COMBINED! It is the exact opposite of what the electorate should have done. Ignorance and lack of education?

Yes, Marx was right, but premature.  Is that you, Etienne?  And no, not lack of education ... basic literacy should have solved all political problems (according to literate leaders who lived in a time of universal illiteracy) ... but the Enlightenment turns out to be wrong.  The noble savage of Rousseau seems closer to the mark than Lockean logicians.  That and Americans aren't European, they are all temporarily embarrassed millionaires.  We don't need a proletarian revolution, because all of us are upwardly mobile and above average (sorry, we are also innumerate).

[reasonist]

I would like to think the disaster is the result of ignorance and lack of education.  That would offer some hope; ignorance can be addressed.  Education can be gained.  But I understand that the average campaign supporter had an income in the 70,000 range.  That is well above average and not a reflection of ignorance or lack of education.  I am deeply afraid that stupidity now has a strangle hold on this country.  Ignorance can be fixed; stupidity simply cannot.  Personally, I have a feeling of doom I've not experienced before.  I hated Bush and still do; but my feeling for drump is much deeper and more fearful.  Drump seems to have his finger on the pulse on the stupidity of this country and can use it at his will; to say he is/will be the worst president we have had is an insult to the Nixon's and Buchanan's of the world.  He has one goal and that is to enrich himself and his family beyond all belief.  And he is on his way.  I do fear for my country.

You are right, but that is incredibly sad that 60 million are that dumb! They literally got a corporate Coup d'Etat for their stupidity. What is even more astonishing is that after seeing first hand what this dolt is doing after the first 100 plus days, 96% of the people who voted for Trump, still support him! That's political and financial masochism! When I saw the proposed health care bill, which gives 880 billion dollars tax break to the wealthy while at the same time taking away insurance from millions and screw the elderly, poor and middle class, I thought surely the leaf has turned and supporters will change their minds in droves. Not so! What must this orange clown do in order for the 60 million to admit that they have been duped?
Here is a video from Tony Schwartz, the guy who wrote "The art of the deal" for Trump. Schwartz knows they guy for 35 years and has a few things to say about him. He pinpoints the exact things that we see in Trump every day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIsgFmTwPd8

[Hijiri Byakuren]

I'm just enjoying the fireworks, to be honest. Trump may not be the president America needs, but he is the one we deserve.

[reasonist]

Yes, Marx was right, but premature.  Is that you, Etienne?  And no, not lack of education ... basic literacy should have solved all political problems (according to literate leaders who lived in a time of universal illiteracy) ... but the Enlightenment turns out to be wrong.  The noble savage of Rousseau seems closer to the mark than Lockean logicians.  That and Americans aren't European, they are all temporarily embarrassed millionaires.  We don't need a proletarian revolution, because all of us are upwardly mobile and above average (sorry, we are also innumerate).

Sure Marx was right but mention his name or socialism or even liberalism and it's like talking about a disease. I guess Oscar Wilde was right when he said: " America is the only country in history, that went directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual period of civilization."
And that was 130 years ago! If he could only see what's going on today...

[Mike Cl]

You are right, but that is incredibly sad that 60 million are that dumb! They literally got a corporate Coup d'Etat for their stupidity. What is even more astonishing is that after seeing first hand what this dolt is doing after the first 100 plus days, 96% of the people who voted for Trump, still support him! That's political and financial masochism! When I saw the proposed health care bill, which gives 880 billion dollars tax break to the wealthy while at the same time taking away insurance from millions and screw the elderly, poor and middle class, I thought surely the leaf has turned and supporters will change their minds in droves. Not so! What must this orange clown do in order for the 60 million to admit that they have been duped?
Here is a video from Tony Schwartz, the guy who wrote "The art of the deal" for Trump. Schwartz knows they guy for 35 years and has a few things to say about him. He pinpoints the exact things that we see in Trump every day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIsgFmTwPd8

Saw the Schwartz interview at the time--he seemed to have genuine fear of drump--and one cannot blame him, for drump is very, very high on revenge (to the 10th degree).  Wonder if Tony is still in this country?

What will it take to get rid of The Donald?  Nothing.  Nothing can remove him short a bullet to the brain.  He has both houses that will shill for him and shield him.  He is simply going about what he has always indicated he would to--enrich his family beyond all belief.  Reward those who help and revenge on those who stand in his way.  The length and breath of this nation's stupidity is such that we will have drump for 8 years.  Many of my friends and family are looking forward to the 2018 elections; they will  not go Demo--the congress will remain Repub.  We will soon all but officially become a white, neo-con, racist country, totally male dominated.

[reasonist]

Saw the Schwartz interview at the time--he seemed to have genuine fear of drump--and one cannot blame him, for drump is very, very high on revenge (to the 10th degree).  Wonder if Tony is still in this country?

What will it take to get rid of The Donald?  Nothing.  Nothing can remove him short a bullet to the brain.  He has both houses that will shill for him and shield him.  He is simply going about what he has always indicated he would to--enrich his family beyond all belief.  Reward those who help and revenge on those who stand in his way.  The length and breath of this nation's stupidity is such that we will have drump for 8 years.  Many of my friends and family are looking forward to the 2018 elections; they will  not go Demo--the congress will remain Repub.  We will soon all but officially become a white, neo-con, racist country, totally male dominated.

You got to keep fighting Mike, you owe it to your children and grandchildren! Resignation will make it worse!
I always have ONE question for the Trumpsters: What must this guy do for you to say ENOUGH! I made a mistake voting for him and defending him.
I never got an answer to that question. Trump himself said that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and get away with it. Seems he was right.

[SGOS]

I guess Oscar Wilde was right when he said: " America is the only country in history, that went directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual period of civilization."

Perhaps we just redefined civilization with the appropriate caricature.  We may indeed be degenerates, but we are proud of it, and won't stop until we have global degeneracy.  Equality under the new world order is our goal.

[Blackleaf]

You got to keep fighting Mike, you owe it to your children and grandchildren! Resignation will make it worse!
I always have ONE question for the Trumpsters: What must this guy do for you to say ENOUGH! I made a mistake voting for him and defending him.
I never got an answer to that question. Trump himself said that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and get away with it. Seems he was right.

I don't doubt that. I could see the reactions of Republicans now.

"As if Democrats don't have any blood on their hands! They murder millions of innocent babies every year, and they don't go to jail! I'm sure that guy deserved it anyway. You can't get that close to the President without permission and expect not to be shot."

[Mike Cl]

You got to keep fighting Mike, you owe it to your children and grandchildren! Resignation will make it worse!
I always have ONE question for the Trumpsters: What must this guy do for you to say ENOUGH! I made a mistake voting for him and defending him.
I never got an answer to that question. Trump himself said that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and get away with it. Seems he was right.

I don't miss an opportunity to engage family on Drump--yeah, some voted for him!  Hard to be civil. :))  I really haven't given up; but I must admit my usual optimistic outlook has taken a hit!

[reasonist]

I don't miss an opportunity to engage family on Drump--yeah, some voted for him!  Hard to be civil. :))  I really haven't given up; but I must admit my usual optimistic outlook has taken a hit!

It's not difficult to share your pessimism, however we must keep fighting! This is all deja vu, the same people who still defend agent orange were wearing brown shirts and screaming with glee and a stretched out right arm 80 years ago! What could be worse than sitting back and doing nothing  when facing evil? I watch with horror other message boards, even in Canada, and realize you can't fight stupidity. But the least we can do is try.

[Baruch]

Sure Marx was right but mention his name or socialism or even liberalism and it's like talking about a disease. I guess Oscar Wilde was right when he said: " America is the only country in history, that went directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual period of civilization."
And that was 130 years ago! If he could only see what's going on today...

To an American, being European is a disease ... WW I, WW II, Communism ... what is not to like?  Oscar Wilde ... he's the man!  If he can't gay ... nobody can!

[Baruch]

It's not difficult to share your pessimism, however we must keep fighting! This is all deja vu, the same people who still defend agent orange were wearing brown shirts and screaming with glee and a stretched out right arm 80 years ago! What could be worse than sitting back and doing nothing  when facing evil? I watch with horror other message boards, even in Canada, and realize you can't fight stupidity. But the least we can do is try.

The original user of Agent Orange was one the the demons, LBJ, Democrat from Hell.  They are demons, all the way down, all the way back to Jefferson.