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Offline fencerider (OP)

Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« on: April 13, 2017, 07:11:04 PM »
well the people chose Trump. They have to live with the consequences.
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Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 07:12:18 PM »
well the people chose Trump. They have to live with the consequences.
Thump's a minority presidentish.
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Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 09:51:34 PM »
well the people chose Trump. They have to live with the consequences.

American voters don't live with the consequences, we always make foreigners do that ;-(
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Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 12:01:40 AM »
Great idea, the best idea even! Obviously the only reason the US has left North Korea mostly alone for so long is because we didn't have a wonderful fuhrer like Trump! There is no reason for a containment strategy at all! It certainly couldn't lead to a geopolitical crisis because of complicated and conflicting interests, alliances and treaties, there's no way a situation like that would ever happen in Asia. Bring up the draft boys, we're going all in!


American voters don't live with the consequences, we always make foreigners do that ;-(
Some of those good ol boys in the military will get a first hand look at what "Making America Great Again" looks like firsthand. If China gets involved we might all get a taste of it. #winning
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Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2017, 12:55:53 AM »
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Some of those good ol boys in the military will get a first hand look at what "Making America Great Again" looks like firsthand. If China gets involved we might all get a taste of it. #winning

My Marine and Army acquaintances are going apeshit over the MOAB, thinking it's a sign we are provoking ISIS into... declaring war on us?... and that we will soon invade... ISIS-stan?... so they will get their chance to kill some freedom hating Muslims... er Arabs... er, uh... terrorists? I'm sure they would chomp at the bits to be shipped into the scenic, frozen hills of North Korea.

I get they have to be trained to want to rush head first into combat because they are the grunts and  you gotta make them believe, but... I mean, if you want to go rush head first into battle, and get some limbs blown off or oorah your way into PTSD and dead friends... just go on your own time and leave the rest of us out of it.
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Offline Sorginak

Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2017, 01:16:47 AM »
Every time we have a Republican president, he wants to wage war as though he is a kid playing soldiers and Indians. 

The realization that every Republican president, at least since I was born, are of low intelligence makes me fear for a country that continues to elect these idiots.

Do people seriously think that there will be no retaliation in war?

There is a reason that peace is preferential to war, due to the fact that war will only kill us all in the end.

There is no safety in war, for retaliation is most assuredly the outcome.

Hate and war merely breed more of the same.

Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2017, 01:38:07 AM »
Great idea, the best idea even! Obviously the only reason the US has left North Korea mostly alone for so long is because we didn't have a wonderful fuhrer like Trump!
North Korea is a nuclear-powered IED that could turn ugly very quickly and very tragically.

Even our best Presidents would have a tough time dealing with it should the missiles start flying - minimizing civilian deaths, coordinating with our allies, and coaxing China into cooperating with or at least not hindering a US-led military coalition threateningly positioned on China's doorstep.

And that's just phase one.  After the nail-biting military campaign, there's the daunting task of managing a postwar North Korea - dealing with the humanitarian crisis, building infrastructure, and re-introducing a populace traumatized and extensively brainwashed back to the rule of law and some semblance of democracy.

That's a hell of a task that would sorely try even our best and brightest.  Trump is not our best.  Trump typically isn't even the best in the room, and I'm including the time he spent on Pat Robertson's lap.

I despite the DPRK regime as much as anyone else.  That country is run like one big concentration camp centered around a cult of personality.  Severe human rights abuses have been going on there decade after decade.  Sooner or later, it needs to end.

But it needs to be put to an end extremely carefully.  If we're just going to end up shooting from the hip, it would be better to just stay in harbor indefinitely.
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Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2017, 01:44:36 AM »
Does anyone have a fallout shelter they wanna share? I promise I won't kill you, eat your flesh, and make some sort of weird skin suit to wear while I'm conquering the wastes.
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Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 01:57:01 AM »
But Hydra, this is a shoot from the hip nation! We're not worried about silly things like reality or what we do afterwards, it's all about winning bigly! Think of it now, friend, a sparkling TRUMP casino and hotel in the middle of downtown Pyongyang! If that doesn't bring a patriotic tear to your eye, then you must be a commie or a Muslim.
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Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 02:09:04 AM »
There is a reason that peace is preferential to war, due to the fact that war will only kill us all in the end.

There is no safety in war, for retaliation is most assuredly the outcome.
Also, when nations go to war, their futures are pretty much up in the air for the duration of the war.  War is inherently risky.  Japan started a war in the Pacific and ended up the two-time victim of the most devastating weapon humans have ever produced.  And US military experiences in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan have proven to be very different from the initial expectation.

It bothers me how blasé (or worse, eager) American officials have often been towards military conflict.  We recently launched a cruise missile strike at Syria and some journalists practically salivated over it.  Insanity.

Offline Sorginak

Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 02:12:05 AM »
We launched a cruise missile strike at Syria and we have journalists salivating over it.  It's crazy.

Indeed.

Worse, most people who watch/read the news are also salivating over it.

Where is their humanity?


Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2017, 02:27:55 AM »
Indeed.

Worse, most people who watch/read the news are also salivating over it.

Where is their humanity?
I dunno.  And the funny part is that I'm somewhat of an interventionist and this is too much even for me.  Stuff like responding to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait - that I understand.  Bombing for little rational reason, seemingly bombing just to get your rocks off?  That I don't understand and pray I never understand.

Offline Sorginak

Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2017, 02:29:46 AM »
Bombing for little provocation or reason, seemingly bombing just to get your rocks off?  That I don't understand and pray I never understand.

It is not as though there was any intelligence that ISIS, their excuse, was actually there in that area.

Trump just wanted to blow something up, which is precisely why he should not be president. 

Offline fencerider (OP)

Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 02:39:38 AM »
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Offline Sorginak

Re: Trump is ready for U.S. first strike against N Korea
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2017, 02:40:59 AM »
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