Author Topic: Found another illogical argument  (Read 1847 times)

Offline fencerider (OP)

Found another illogical argument
« on: April 12, 2017, 12:32:37 AM »
was looking for a list of all the errors in the Bible and found this ridiculous argument that is supposed to be logic

Here are 3 reasons the Bible can not err 1)god the father 2)god the son 3)god the holy spirit
1. god can not err, the Bible is the word of god => therefore the Bible can not err.
2. whatever Jesus affirmed as true is true. Jesus affirmed that the Bible is the word of god => therefore it is true that the Bible is the word of god.
3. the spirit of truth can not utter error. The Bible is the word spoken by the holy spirit. => therefore the Bible cannot err.

conclusion: the Bible can not err because 1) god the father 2) god the son 3)god the holy spirit => therefore an attack on the Bible is an attack on the authenticity of god the father, the authority of god the son, and the ministry of the holy spirit.


Nevermind the lack of logic in the arguments, can any of this argument be shown to be true without referencing the Bible. Somebody needs to remind this guy that the Bible was put together for the benefit of the Roman emperor and not for religous people....
another quote from an antagonist agnostic: not expecting god to show up, but if he does we’re going to have to beat the prick up.

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2017, 12:59:00 AM »
Nevermind the lack of logic in the arguments, can any of this argument be shown to be true without referencing the Bible.
That's the beauty of it.  It's a closed loop.  The Bible is the word of God because Jesus is divine; Jesus is divine because the Bible says so.  Nothing can contradict it because it doesn't rely on anything but itself.

Offline Cavebear

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2017, 03:20:39 AM »
was looking for a list of all the errors in the Bible and found this ridiculous argument that is supposed to be logic

Here are 3 reasons the Bible can not err 1)god the father 2)god the son 3)god the holy spirit
1. god can not err, the Bible is the word of god => therefore the Bible can not err.
2. whatever Jesus affirmed as true is true. Jesus affirmed that the Bible is the word of god => therefore it is true that the Bible is the word of god.
3. the spirit of truth can not utter error. The Bible is the word spoken by the holy spirit. => therefore the Bible cannot err.

conclusion: the Bible can not err because 1) god the father 2) god the son 3)god the holy spirit => therefore an attack on the Bible is an attack on the authenticity of god the father, the authority of god the son, and the ministry of the holy spirit.


Nevermind the lack of logic in the arguments, can any of this argument be shown to be true without referencing the Bible. Somebody needs to remind this guy that the Bible was put together for the benefit of the Roman emperor and not for religous people....

The lack of logic is the whole problem.  Does rational thought mean nothing to you?  I'm genuinely curious about people for whom thought means nothing and faith seems to be everything.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!  b 1950

Offline Baruch

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2017, 06:52:42 AM »
The lack of logic is the whole problem.  Does rational thought mean nothing to you?  I'm genuinely curious about people for whom thought means nothing and faith seems to be everything.

Thinking is hard, intuition is easy.  Unfortunately, intuition is often wrong.  So is thinking ... but that is a different post ;-)
שלום

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2017, 05:48:48 PM »
Should I use my left hand right hand for that?  ;-)

Choosing thinking or intuition over the other is like trying to hop a mile on one leg.

Offline Sorginak

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 05:51:12 PM »
It is easy enough for me to choose thinking.   

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2017, 05:51:30 PM »
Choosing thinking or intuition over the other is like trying to hop a mile on one leg.
But both legs consist of thinking.  Intuition's the tail.

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2017, 05:54:44 PM »
But both legs consist of thinking.  Intuition's the tail.
Figures it would be right over the butt hole! lol

But seriously the forces of nature don't stop at the surface of our skins nor the surface of our minds, we are composed by them propelled by them and immersed in them.  Only the quiet mind will perceive them.

Offline Sorginak

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2017, 05:55:40 PM »
Figures it would be right over the butt hole! lol

But seriously the forces of nature don't stop at the surface of our skins nor the surface of our minds, we are composed by them propelled by them and immersed in them.  Only the quiet mind will perceive them.

How quiet have you been lately in this forum?

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2017, 06:01:27 PM »
How quiet have you been lately in this forum?
As quiet as a breath, a movement and a rest.  I make it a point to rest long enough to look from other peoples paradigms.

Offline Sorginak

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2017, 06:03:23 PM »
As quiet as a breath, a movement and a rest.  I make it a point to rest long enough to look from other peoples paradigms.

One moment does not count as a rest. 

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2017, 06:07:29 PM »
One moment does not count as a rest.
Depends on how much volition you have over the workings of your mind. Time is relative.

Offline Sorginak

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2017, 06:09:03 PM »
Depends on how much volition you have over the workings of your mind. Time is relative.

A fact of which I am all too well aware. 

Offline aitm

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2017, 06:13:13 PM »

But seriously the forces of nature ......

  Only the quiet mind will perceive them.

rrriiiggghhhhttt. Okay then. Whose up for some power crystals and universal sounding?  All you have to do is imagine you think it and voila! It becomes true.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Found another illogical argument
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2017, 06:18:47 PM »
rrriiiggghhhhttt. Okay then. Whose up for some power crystals and universal sounding?  All you have to do is imagine you think it and voila! It becomes true.
Hardly! You have to stop thinking…for a long period of time. The universe does not speak English.