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Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« on: April 10, 2017, 02:52:49 PM »
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/over-100-people-allegedly-sent-to-concentration-camps-for-gay-men-in-chechnya-35610969.html

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Over 100 gay men have been sent to concentration camps for homosexuals in Chechnya and three people have been killed, a new report has claimed.
Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta and human rights activists allege that anyone authorities suspect are gay is rounded up and sent to these camps,  where inmates are reportedly tortured.
A spokesman for Chechnya’s leader Ramzan Kadyrov denied the allegations, claiming that gay people don't exist in the region.

Alvi Karimov told Interfax news agency: "You cannot detain and persecute people who simply do not exist in the republic.
"If there were such people in Chechnya, the law-enforcement organs wouldn’t need to have anything to do with them because their relatives would send them somewhere from which there is no returning."

One of Chechnya's human rights officials, Kheda Saratova, echoed those sentiments as he dismissed the report.
He told a Russian radio station: "I haven’t had a single request on this issue, but if I did, I wouldn’t even consider it.

"In our Chechen society, any person who respects our traditions and culture will hunt down this kind of person without any help from authorities, and do everything to make sure that this kind of person does not exist in our society."
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Chechnya is formally a part of Russia but now acts as a semi-independent state.
An LGBT group condemned the reports and said they will help anyone affected.

Russian group LGBT Network said: "No national and/or religious traditions and norms can justify kidnapping or killing of a human being.
"Any references to “traditions” to justify kidnappings and killings are amoral and criminal.

"The Russian LGBT Network is ready to evacuate people."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4397118/Chechnya-opens-concentration-camp-homosexuals.html

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Chechnya opens world's first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler's in the 1930s where campaigners say gay men are being tortured with electric shocks and beaten to death

-Chechyna has opened the first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler
-Prisoners reportedly tortured with electric shocks and some beaten to death
-One of those who fled said prisoners were beaten to force them to reveal other members of the gay community
-Comes after 100 gay men were detained and three killed in Chechyna last week

Chechyna has opened the first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler, where campaigners say gay men are being tortured with electric shocks and beaten to death. 
It comes after it was claimed 100 gay men had been detained and three killed in Chechnya last week.
A report by Novoya Gazeta said authorities had set up several camps where homosexuals are killed or forced to promise to leave the republic.
One of the camps is reportedly at the former military headquarters in the town of Argun.

Svetlana Zakharova, from the Russian LGBT Network, told MailOnline: 'Gay people have been detained and rounded up and we are working to evacuate people from the camps and some have now left the region.
'Those who have escaped said they are detained in the same room and people are kept altogether, around 30 or 40. They are tortured with electric currents and heavily beaten, sometimes to death.'

One of those who escaped told Novoya Gazeta that prisoners were beaten to force them to reveal other members of the gay community.
Another prisoner who fled said that before being incarcerated in one of the camps, he had been forced to pay bribes to Chechen police of thousands of rubles every month in order to survive.
Now the regime had taken another step against gays by creating these camps, the survivor said. 
Alexander Artemyev, from Amnesty International in Russia, told MailOnline: 'We can only call on the Russian authorities to investigate the allegations. Homosexuals in Chechyna are treated very harshly and prosecuted daily and they are afraid to talk about it.
'They either have to hide or leave the republic. We are keeping in touch with the LGBT network that helps people in Russia to find shelter. The problem is people there cannot talk about it as it puts their lives and those they speak to, in danger. This is the main issue we are facing in Russia and the main challenge.'
Ekaterina Sokirianskaia, Russia project director for the International Crisis Group, told MailOnline: 'The story is very much developing...victims are escaping.'

Tanya Lokshina, from Human Rights Watch in Moscow, said: 'For several weeks now, a brutal campaign against LGBT people has been sweeping through Chechnya.
'These days, very few people in Chechnya dare speak to human rights monitors or journalists even anonymously because the climate of fear is overwhelming and people have been largely intimidated into silence.
'Filing an official complaint against local security officials is extremely dangerous, as retaliation by local authorities is practically inevitable.
'It is difficult to overstate just how vulnerable LGBT people are in Chechnya, where homophobia is intense and rampant. LGBT people are in danger not only of persecution by the authorities but also of falling victim to "honour killings" by their own relatives for tarnishing family honour.'
Last week Novoya Gazeta said Chechen police had rounded up more than 100 men suspected of being gay and killed three.
It claimed that among those detained were well-known local television personalities and religious figures.
President Razman Kadyrov, who is a key ally of Vladimir Putin, allegedly ordered the clampdown, although officially his regime denied the arrests claiming 'it is impossible to persecute those who are not in the republic'.

Kadyrov, who introduced Islamic rule in the Muslim-majority region, has been accused of earlier human rights violations.
He described the allegations as 'absolute lies and disinformation'.   
Kadyrov's spokesman Alvi Karimov told the Interfax News Agency: 'You cannot arrest or repress people who just don't exist in the republic.
'If such people existed in Chechnya, law enforcement would not have to worry about them, as their own relatives would have sent them to where they could never return.'
Chechen society is strictly conservative, meaning that unlike other cases where relatives or rights activists may put pressure on authorities when a homosexual relative disappears, those suspected are likely to be disowned by their own families. 
According to the New York Times, gay men on the region have been deleting their social media profiles after it was reported authorities tried to lure gay men into dates and arrested them.
The reports from Russia claim those arrested range from just 15 to 50. 




And one could have assumed barbarism only existed in the middle east. Oh but its nothing really, gay people don't exist in chechnya, or at least they won't when their all killed off.

Honestly its hard to find words to express how this makes me feel, because its so insane, aside from the obvious, but just on the fact we live in the age we do now, and this is still happening, the fact these savages posing as civilized politicians can think they can fool the world into believing 'no problem here, no gays exist'. 
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Offline SGOS

Re: Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2017, 03:21:09 PM »
It's easy to think man has somehow advanced civilization in our time.  And then something like this happens

Online Sorginak

Re: Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2017, 03:59:13 PM »
I do not see Trump going to war against Russia to end the travesty. 
Religion is primitive, inventive nonsense.

Re: Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2017, 04:47:45 PM »
It's easy to think man has somehow advanced civilization in our time.  And then something like this happens
"Civilization? Great idea! Uh, when we gonna get one?"
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Re: Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2017, 04:50:38 PM »
You either die a Герой Советского Союза or live long enough to see yourself become the Фашист

Re: Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2017, 07:06:00 PM »
I do not see Trump going to war against Russia to end the travesty. 
Yep. I was thinking about Mike Pence right there.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2017, 07:49:26 PM »
I suspect that ... given the Elite preference for boys in Muslim societies ... it is probably more of a class problem.  The Elite who don't follow Shariah anyway ... don't like the competition for the prettiest boys ;-(
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Re: Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2017, 11:12:59 PM »
Didn't we use to have someone who argued Putin's bad rap was all western propaganda? I know this isn't him enacting, but he doesn't disapprove of it
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Offline SGOS

Re: Chechnya opens concentration camp for gay men
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2017, 06:17:33 AM »
Didn't Russia recently create some kind of pro discrimination law making it OK to harass gays?  He may or may not be directly involved, but his actions don't discourage this.  Chechnya is supposedly a Republic of it's own.  It's a conservative Islamist state, and this kind of violence is inherent in Islam.  It doesn't require orders from Russia to brutally torture and cleanse society of those who offend it's imaginary deity.