Deep State now past 100 years old ...

Started by Baruch, April 08, 2017, 09:16:38 AM

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Baruch

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 12, 2017, 07:47:39 AM
Slave-owning is  bad now. For most of history it just was. Retrofitting today's morality on the 1700s is rather bizarre.

SJWs retrofit present shibboleths to the 1950s, let alone the 1750s.
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Baruch

Quote from: SoldierofFortune on April 12, 2017, 09:26:51 AM
If they wish you didn't even know about the conspiracy that has been talked to...
The minister of Truth wouldn't let you know... : )

Even the CIA understands reverse psychology, as part of narrative control.
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Baruch

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 12, 2017, 11:43:43 AM
Gotta love a good conspiracy theory.

There is nothing good about human beings.  We are good at patting ourselves on the back, and ticking a shiv in the back of others.
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Cavebear

Slavery is terrible.  But it might be worth remembering that slavery was not originated in the southern US.  Slavery is far more ancient.  People have been enslaved since records of conquests began.  The Romans enslaved individuals from many conquered peoples.  The Moslems valued foreign slaves (the Quaran forbids enslaving fellow moslems).  The Africans enslaved conquered tribes, it goes on and on. 

Slavery has no explicit origin and no culture has been free of it.  In some places, it continues to this day.  It must end.
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on April 17, 2017, 02:47:19 AM
Slavery is terrible.  But it might be worth remembering that slavery was not originated in the southern US.  Slavery is far more ancient.  People have been enslaved since records of conquests began.  The Romans enslaved individuals from many conquered peoples.  The Moslems valued foreign slaves (the Quaran forbids enslaving fellow moslems).  The Africans enslaved conquered tribes, it goes on and on. 

Slavery has no explicit origin and no culture has been free of it.  In some places, it continues to this day.  It must end.

Yes, humanity must end, in the name of stopping the inhumanity.  Are you going to end wage slavery and debt slavery?  You can't be Lincoln, you aren't Obama.
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fencerider

I pledge allegiance to the FED of the United States Corporation. and to the bankers for which it stands, one nation under contract, insoluble. With hubris, ligations, and crisis for all
"Do you believe in god?", is not a proper English sentence. Unless you believe that, "Do you believe in apple?", is a proper English sentence.

Cavebear

Quote from: fencerider on April 20, 2017, 12:44:29 AM
I pledge allegiance to the FED of the United States Corporation. and to the bankers for which it stands, one nation under contract, insoluble. With hubris, ligations, and crisis for all

One never knows quite how to interpret a weird statement like that...  B+ on the humor, C- on the clarity of meaning.  ;)
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Baruch

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 12, 2017, 11:43:43 AM
Gotta love a good conspiracy theory.

Well Assange probably has committed unforgivable crimes ... so the Deep State isn't always wrong.  No government likes transparency.
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fencerider

Quote from: Cavebear on April 21, 2017, 05:00:32 AM
One never knows quite how to interpret a weird statement like that...
It means that the conspiracy theories run deep, there are so many that one is likely to be true, and maybe Baruch know more about the matter than he lets on....

If you want to find out for yourself, you'll have to read a good book or two about the creation of the FED and if you got time to fry your brain may as well download the text of the 1913 law that created the FED. Its a nasty piece of work without any conspiracy theories attached.
"Do you believe in god?", is not a proper English sentence. Unless you believe that, "Do you believe in apple?", is a proper English sentence.

Baruch

Quote from: fencerider on April 22, 2017, 05:32:07 PM
It means that the conspiracy theories run deep, there are so many that one is likely to be true, and maybe Baruch know more about the matter than he lets on....

If you want to find out for yourself, you'll have to read a good book or two about the creation of the FED and if you got time to fry your brain may as well download the text of the 1913 law that created the FED. Its a nasty piece of work without any conspiracy theories attached.

All Americans are genius founders ... starting with Sir Walter Raleigh and the Roanoke colony ... on down to whatever Democrat is in office today ;-)  Thus whatever did happen in 1913 ... it was for the best ... because geniuses (but not the Pope) approved of it at the time.  Charles Lindberg's father, in Congress at the time, did not.  Take the blue pill or the red pill ... but you must take at least one, if not both.

The US government is currently overrun with Israeli agents ... but Israel doesn't exist ... if you think they do, you have a tin foil hat on.
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Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Cavebear on April 21, 2017, 05:00:32 AM
One never knows quite how to interpret a weird statement like that...  B+ on the humor, C- on the clarity of meaning.  ;)
In Baruchistan statement interpret you!
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Baruch

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Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 23, 2017, 08:13:08 AM
In Baruchistan statement interpret you!

More true that you might think.  You head is filled with memes from childhood on ... many having been deeply embedded and not discarded or superseded.  You are an ogre, not a parfait.  And it is courtesy of those memes, that you think, speak and write ... including about yourself, and the world around you.  So GS statement interpret GS ... tautology.

The actual statement Cavebear is quoting, is from Fencerider, not moi.  But glad to see Fencerider is one of those who aren't sheeple.

White sheeple, white sheeple, have you any assets ... yes boss, yes boss three banks full.
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Baruch

The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word ‘war’, therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist.

â€" George Orwell, 1984

That was written in 1948 ... but it started under Hitler in 1933, and under Churchill and FDR in 1940.  What started in 1940 is ongoing, no matter what President or PM you elect.  That is why Isolationist Trump so quickly became Globalist Trump.
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Cavebear

I looked, but can't find the meaning of "FED" in this context...
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on April 24, 2017, 06:03:31 AM
I looked, but can't find the meaning of "FED" in this context...

Context ...
Great Britain is planning WW I, is building the British Empire, is partnered with the Rothschilds since the founding of the BoE, is trying to reclaim the US per Cecil Rhodes.  They know that a clash with Kaiser Wilhelm (cousin to King George) is inevitable.  Young Winston Churchill is raising an alarm over a "naval gap" that would allow the Kaiser to land troops in Britain during a surprise raid over the North Sea (later he would do the same concerning the rebuilding of the Luftwaffe in the 1930s).

Solution ...
Rebuild central bank for the US (FED), that has been demolished twice before, the last time by President Jackson.  Use that central bank to help finance the war, use the US to help supply the arms and other economic supplies outside the reach of the Kriegsmarine.  Bottle up the Kriegsmarine in the North Sea.

Result ...
Near disaster by 1917, need to jinn up or modify a German diplomatic telegram because French and British manpower is exhausted by the slaughter.  Zimmerman telegram is slipped to the Americans, giving President Wilson his opening for American mobilization against Germany.  If that hadn't happened, then given the Bolshevik Revolution in the Russian Empire, the Germans freed from fighting on two fronts, would have not only had the 1918 spring offensive in France, but they would have won.

The original conspiracy was bringing William of Orange to England, to overthrow King James in the Glorious Revolution of 1688.  The combination of Dutch and English banking produced the BoE.  And the BoE led to the British Empire, and the defeat of Napoleon.
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