The reality that we'll die some day

[Baruch]

Many empires have risen and fallen based on their harmony with or abuse of nature. The rules have not changed.

Collapse by Jared Diamond.

[Baruch]

Tricky part I was referring to is creating a "they" category in your mind and throwing people into it. Some might go along with your assumptions just to push your buttons.

Come let us reason together...

For monomaniacs ... the inverse is easy ... there is only one person in "us", which is just her/him.  Everyone else is a "them".

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Can you imagine the shock of finding out your consciousness can't die?

Um, no.


But it wouldn't be any more amazing that just dying.

[Ananta Shesha]

Um, no.


But it wouldn't be any more amazing that just dying.

Not sure if you're appreciating just how much information we store, compartmentalize, and hide from our own selves.

At death we no longer have the luxury of insulation. All disharmonies resolve themselves with out our say so.  This is probably the hell experience many near death experiencers  report.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Not sure if you're appreciating just how much information we store, compartmentalize, and hide from our own selves.

At death we no longer have the luxury of insulation. All disharmonies resolve themselves with out our say so.  This is probably the hell experience many near death experiencers  report.

Or it could be different. Nobody's really reported back.

[Ananta Shesha]

Or it could be different. Nobody's really reported back.

People report back from the brink of the brink...appears to center around life review and reconciliation of consciousness.

[Mike Cl]

After survival of the fittest comes flourishing of the most cooperative.

Survival of the fittest does not exclude being cooperative.  I've found that in many ways they are one and the same.

[Ananta Shesha]

Survival of the fittest does not exclude being cooperative.  I've found that in many ways they are one and the same.

I wonder how many people cooperate with their gut bacteria?  Given that they produce the far majority of neural transmitters...it would be a good idea not to ignore them.

[Mike Cl]

I wonder how many people cooperate with their gut bacteria?  Given that they produce the far majority of neural transmitters...it would be a good idea not to ignore them.

How does one ignore them???

[SGOS]

A hippie once wrote on a window in a cabin in Nederland CO ... so my chemistry professor told me ... "Entropy Sucks".  Well hippies suck too.

Why does entropy suck?   For that matter, why do hippies suck? How did your professor know that it was a hippy?  Furthermore, I thought it was a clever thing to write.  If I saw that, it would have given me a chuckle as a poetic bit of nonsense.  It would make a great bumper sticker.  I'm happy there are people around that make me chuckle.  I love that kind of nonsense.  Who cares if it was a hippy or just some ordinary chemistry student wasted on pot?  I'm guessing it was a chemistry student, or at least someone smart enough to know about entropy.  And it's a lot funnier than making farting sounds with your armpit. 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

People report back from the brink of the brink...appears to center around life review and reconciliation of consciousness.

That's rather like reporting from the exit before opening it. Nil actual information.

[Baruch]

Survival of the fittest does not exclude being cooperative.  I've found that in many ways they are one and the same.

Frenemies ... very big in ME now.

[Baruch]

Not sure if you're appreciating just how much information we store, compartmentalize, and hide from our own selves.

At death we no longer have the luxury of insulation. All disharmonies resolve themselves with out our say so.  This is probably the hell experience many near death experiencers  report.

The idea that you are contained in your body, not just cohabit it .. is an illusion ... particularly of the egomaniac West.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Survival of the fittest does not exclude being cooperative.  I've found that in many ways they are one and the same.

Yep. We see subordinates cooperating to keep the "alpha female" well fed during pregnancy and nursing. In some cases they take turns tending the creche while the actual parents are out hunting. They are insuring that their bloodline endures/survives.

[aitm]

Some view a human as an "individual", I see the human as a vast collection of the micro world, a somewhat accidental creation, a by product of mutual self-preservation. We are a Queen Mary of the micro world, but we are not more important than the squirrel or lemur of cockroach all of which were assembled more or less by the evolution of the micro worlds attempt to protect itself. Each animal slowly produces its own motor control, it's own method of travel, or sustenance gathering for the whole. This I find to be the most incredible and fascinating story of evolution. It is far more believable than a grand wizard stumbling about in the great nothingness spilling universes into existence when perhaps his job is to take out the trash.