Author Topic: The reality that we'll die some day  (Read 3056 times)

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2017, 05:55:13 PM »
And I plan on taking it with me...
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Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2017, 05:58:02 PM »
Frankly, I don't plan on it.
I don't plan on it either; death will have to do a little chasing to find me.  But we both know who will end up winning this little game of tag.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2017, 06:22:25 PM »
Frankly, I don't plan on it.
Staff don't die, they just resurrect.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Munch

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2017, 08:18:25 PM »
Something that gives me comfort, that gives me that awe and inspiration you often see with religious types have about their make believe gods, for me its looking up into the night sky and thinking about the vastness of space, all the galaxies and stars and voids out there. When you think, we are the only species on the planet that has not only thought about these things, but we've observed them, from afar, and sent up our technology into space to observe it.

Now on that, as religious sorts have a central theme of immortality, just about all religions believe we have an immortal soul that when we die either goes and lives somewhere good or bad for eternity, or gets reincarnated into something new. The irony of this however is when you really consider the universe in its entirety, just like us and out lifespans, the universe itself is of a lifespan.



The idea of living forever just seems all the more daft when you consider in the far, far distant future, there will be nothing there, just a void where the universe once was, and nothing to remember it.

So just on the fact of knowing everything will just simply not be anymore, like when our sun explodes and wipes out our planet, so when all supermassive black holes consume all atoms in the universe, its best to just live in there here and now and enjoy the ride.

Offline aitm

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2017, 08:48:03 PM »
Seriously I am working on a pill right now...and with my background in construction and drinking and a playboyin...I stand a pretty damn good chance of coming up with a "live long and prosper" pill. Ima gonna copy right that so don't try stealin it you jack wipe fuck heads. Anyway, I have read that if you combine chemicals that have opposing effects on anything that everything will be in a state of static whoo-si-do. So.....I have that going for me.....bitches.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline SGOS

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2017, 09:09:11 PM »
The idea of living forever just seems all the more daft when you consider in the far, far distant future, there will be nothing there, just a void where the universe once was, and nothing to remember it.
Or to take it a step further, not even a void to occupy, and no time for anything to happen in the "not-even-a-void."  The movie, Dr. Strange, attempts to address this cosmological conundrum, and while I appreciated the director's attempt to visually create the concept, it was unavoidably clumsy.  Good enough for Hollywood?  Acceptable for most audiences, I guess, but I think I heard Stephen Hawking screaming from across the pond.

Good grief!  A deranged super villain who is obsessed with wiping out time in order to create a more perfect universe.  As much as I love that movie, I was squirming a bit in my seat during that part.  I don't know.  Maybe that guy was operating on a level so far beyond me that I just couldn't identify with it.

Offline SGOS

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2017, 09:11:16 PM »
Seriously I am working on a pill right now...and with my background in construction and drinking and a playboyin...I stand a pretty damn good chance of coming up with a "live long and prosper" pill. Ima gonna copy right that so don't try stealin it you jack wipe fuck heads. Anyway, I have read that if you combine chemicals that have opposing effects on anything that everything will be in a state of static whoo-si-do. So.....I have that going for me.....bitches.
I'm picturing you as the super villain in the next Dr. Strange movie.

Offline Cavebear

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2017, 05:57:23 AM »
You were dead for 14,000,000,000+ years, you'll go back to that state eventually. Sweating about it will reduce the time you have enjoy simply being alive.

No, you have to be alive before you can be dead.  Non-existence is time-free.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead

Offline Baruch

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2017, 07:00:38 AM »
No, you have to be alive before you can be dead.  Non-existence is time-free.

Based on experience?  Are you Interneting from a seance?
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Offline SGOS

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2017, 08:21:23 AM »
No, you have to be alive before you can be dead.  Non-existence is time-free.
Yeah, it is in a way.  But think of all the time wasted.  Think of what you missed.  I could have been born in the horse and buggy days.  Instead, I got stuck in the age of technology and medical advancement the likes of which my predecessors didn't have to endure.  I missed out on the back breaking hours of the European peasants.  What a pisser.

Offline Cavebear

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2017, 08:50:12 AM »
Yeah, it is in a way.  But think of all the time wasted.  Think of what you missed.  I could have been born in the horse and buggy days.  Instead, I got stuck in the age of technology and medical advancement the likes of which my predecessors didn't have to endure.  I missed out on the back breaking hours of the European peasants.  What a pisser.

Yeah, living when you shouldn't have is harsh.  In an earlier age, I would have died of a hernial hiatus (or something like that) at 18 months, and an appendix rupture at 18 years.  On the other hand, I have been healthy as a horse ever since.  No flu touches me, the common cold is a sad things my friends suffer, and allergies are vague complaints in the office.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2017, 10:14:03 AM »
JK Rowling, through Newt Scamander, said it best, "Way I figure it, if you worry you die twice." 
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2017, 10:16:04 AM »
Yeah, living when you shouldn't have is harsh.  In an earlier age, I would have died of a hernial hiatus (or something like that) at 18 months, and an appendix rupture at 18 years.  On the other hand, I have been healthy as a horse ever since.  No flu touches me, the common cold is a sad things my friends suffer, and allergies are vague complaints in the office.
Hiatal hernia?

I would have been dead at 37 from appendicitis. I would have been dead at 21 from injuries sustained while debating political with my socialist brothers via small arms fire and napalm.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2017, 09:38:36 PM »
No, you have to be alive before you can be dead.  Non-existence is time-free.


Because of the health issues I have had, over the past few weeks(chest pain & fatigue), I have been thinking a lot about this lately. I even put some final requests, into a file on my laptop, in lieu of an official Will.

Yeah, so I'm supposedly schizo... but my own ghost, came back to me in time, in 1989, and tried to reunite me with my soulmate. I don't know if that means there is an afterlife. I suspect it's more of a "between-life," like the point at the center of a clock, where there is no motion...neutral karma...the recycling of the soul...close your eyes...open your eyes...


“The Dead”
Solomon Zorn


The living are curious as to the dead
They're wondering what sort of fate lies ahead
I offer a secret you may not have read​

Death comes last

The dead do not suffer
The dead don't see your tears
The dead will not answer
The dead no longer hear

The dead are done talking
The dead don't make a sound
The dead are not lurking
The dead are in the ground

The dead have been buried
The dead are in a tomb
The dead are not worried
The dead await the womb

Death comes first

A heavenly dream as the carcass is mourned
Till water has broken and curtain is torn
The dead are in waiting and yet to be born


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Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: The reality that we'll die some day
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2017, 07:53:25 AM »
Just because I'm not expecting any God to meet me beyond, doesn't mean I don't get to have my own peculiar delusions, concerning the "soul"(for lack of a better word).

But my delusions are just my reaction, to the extraordinary phenomena that I have witnessed.

And I have witnessed some fucking mind-blowing weirdness.

Among them:

Mutual(mass) hypnosis
Invisibility
Levitation(This one is forbidden)
Time nullification
Radar love
The Sacred Dance(touching souls)

But although I joke about being the Schizophrenic Messiah, I don't share any of my experiences, with the expectation that they should ring true, to anyone else. But life is a trip, you know?
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