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Offline Mr.Obvious (OP)

The war on Easter
« on: April 04, 2017, 01:03:49 PM »
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Theresa May criticises Cadbury over Easter egg hunt

 
Theresa May voices her disappointment that the National Trust has renamed its egg hunt

Theresa May has described the decision to drop the word Easter from the name of Cadbury and National Trust egg hunts as "absolutely ridiculous".

Her comments come after the Archbishop of York said calling the event the Cadbury Egg Hunt was like "spitting on the grave" of the firm's Christian founder, John Cadbury.

But Cadbury said Easter was referred to on much of its packaging and marketing.

The National Trust also denied it was downplaying the significance of Easter.

It said there were more than 13,000 references to Easter on its website and that it runs a programme of activities to mark the event.

Meanwhile, a descendant of John Cadbury pointed out that "as a Quaker, he didn't celebrate Easter".

His great-great-great-great-granddaughter, Esther McConnell, said: "He believed that every day is equally sacred and, back then, this was expressed by not marking festivals."

She added: "I am glad to see that Cadbury and the National Trust are welcoming those of 'all faiths and none' to their event regardless of whether they call it Easter or not."

However another distant relative, his great-great-great-grandson James Cadbury, said the National Trust "should have made sure that the word Easter was used".

Quakers are members of a faith group with Christian roots, but they do not celebrate Christian festivals such Easter and Christmas.

The British Humanist Association (BHA) described the issue as a "storm in an eggcup".

'Very important festival'

The annual egg hunts at National Trust properties around the country over the Easter weekend have been run in partnership with Cadbury for 10 years. About 300 will be taking place this year.

The event has previously been called an "Easter Egg Trail" but this year it has been promoted as "Cadbury's Great British Egg Hunt". Both organisations do refer to Easter within their promotional adverts.

Mrs May told ITV News: "I'm not just a vicar's daughter - I'm a member of the National Trust as well.

"I think the stance they have taken is absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what they are thinking about frankly. Easter's very important... It's a very important festival for the Christian faith for millions across the world."

Archbishop of York John Sentamu said Mr Cadbury, a Quaker who founded the firm in 1824, was renowned for his religious beliefs and would not condone dropping the word Easter.

He said if people were to visit Cadbury World in Birmingham "they will discover how Cadbury's Christian faith influenced his industrial output".

"To drop Easter from Cadbury's Easter Egg Hunt in my book is tantamount to spitting on the grave of Cadbury," Dr Sentamu added.

A spokesman from the Church added: "This marketing campaign not only does a disservice to the Cadburys but also highlights the folly in airbrushing faith from Easter."

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said the issue reflected "commercialisation gone a bit too far".

Cancellation threats

The National Trust said the suggestion it was downplaying the significance of Easter "could [not] be further from the truth".

"A casual glance at our website will see dozens of references to Easter throughout," a spokesman said.
Image copyright Cadbury
Image caption The Cadbury website mentions Easter - just not in the name of the event

But some National Trust members contacted the BBC to say they were considering cancelling their memberships over the row.

The trust updated its website on Tuesday morning to add the word Easter to a page promoting the event.

In a statement, Cadbury said it had used the phrase Easter in its marketing for over 100 years and "continues to do so in our current campaigns", adding: "We invite people from all faiths and none to enjoy our seasonal treats."
Image copyright National Trust
Image caption How the National Trust website originally looked on Tuesday morning
Image copyright National Trust
Image caption The site now uses the word Easter in the headline of its page on the event

Richy Thompson, BHA's director of public affairs, said: "Easter is a fun time of year for people of all ages and beliefs. It's disappointing that the Church saw fit to whip up a storm in an eggcup over this and in a bid to maintain its relevance in an increasingly non-religious country."

Paul Parker, recording clerk for Quakers in Britain, explained why Easter - and other traditional festivals - are not celebrated by Quakers.

"Eggs - chocolate or otherwise - remind us of new life and new beginnings. Quaker faith prompts us to seek that of God in each other," he said.

"Rather than keeping traditional church festivals, Quakers say every day is a chance for new beginnings for all of us, for love and forgiveness, restorative justice and joy."

Because, you know, the war on christmas is, like, so last season. Like... OMG, get with the times man. The war on Easter is, like, totally what's happening right now? For real. I can't even, omg. Like, totally, right? Whateva.

source:http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39487307
« Last Edit: April 04, 2017, 01:49:33 PM by Mr.Obvious »
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Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 01:19:51 PM »
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the Archbishop of York said calling the event the Cadbury Egg Hunt was like "spitting on the grave" of the firm's Christian founder, John Cadbury.
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Meanwhile, a descendant of John Cadbury pointed out that "as a Quaker, he didn't celebrate Easter".

Offline Munch

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 01:30:06 PM »
You know, my brother and sister in law has never brought up Jesus with my nephews, never brought up religion at all with them. But I know their school, which is meant to be secular, is giving the 'reason for the season' to their impressionable young minds.

Makes me question what's the difference between teaching kids in schools about Jesus, or Charles Manson.

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 02:43:33 PM »
Have there been many casualties among the Islanders?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline SGOS

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2017, 05:20:13 PM »
That does it.  As of today, I'm boycotting church.

Offline aitm

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2017, 05:44:46 PM »
That does it.  As of today, I'm boycotting church.
and I shall join you...rat bastards all of em.
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Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2017, 06:13:19 PM »
Have there been many casualties among the Islanders?
Mostly Moai are left.  Hardly any wood.  Only a few of the thousands that used to be.  Over the centuries, lots of causalities.
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Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Online Shiranu

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2017, 06:29:10 PM »
Fucking internet, man. Social media turns the most trivial shit that no one should have heard about into world news.
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Offline Baruch

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2017, 07:22:29 PM »
Fucking internet, man. Social media turns the most trivial shit that no one should have heard about into world news.

You have to throw a few Christians to the Roman mob, now and again ;-)

Oh ... stop the Gentile war on Passover please.  All you Christians, stop appropriating other people's religions.
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Offline Munch

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2017, 07:37:57 PM »
The easter bunny vs Jesus.



My votes on the bunny.


Offline Baruch

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2017, 07:06:31 AM »
Don't mess with the Pooka.  I believe that Jimmy Stewart died for my sins ;-)
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Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2017, 07:50:47 AM »
Mostly Moai are left.  Hardly any wood.  Only a few of the thousands that used to be.  Over the centuries, lots of causalities.
Odd, I didn't think there would be any deaths over just a few centuries.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2017, 07:51:55 AM »
Fucking internet, man. Social media turns the most trivial shit that no one should have heard about into world news.
IRL none of this shit matters. On the 'net it's a matter of life or death. We need someone to restore balance to the ('net) force.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2017, 07:58:05 AM »
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Re: The war on Easter
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2017, 09:27:54 AM »
Odd, I didn't think there would be any deaths over just a few centuries.
My latest understanding (could be more evidence I've not read about recently, tho) that two or three groups on the island fought over the vegetation--mainly trees --cut most or all of them down and that sealed their doom.  That lead to little to nothing to eat and all but a few died out.  But in the last couple of centuries I guess there has not been many casualties.  But the Moai are still there.........
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?