Author Topic: Opinions on Deathbed visions?  (Read 2121 times)

Offline trdsf

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2017, 06:57:28 PM »
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Facilitated by the viewer's own brain, but the origin of the pattern, can be outside  of yourself...at least that has been my experience. Perception. Is it valid, to the one perceiving it, or not?
Oh, I only meant that such visions are not driven by *completely* external (and allegedly supernatural) forces.  I would still say the source is internal since it's going to be driven by the meaning it has to the perceiver.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2017, 06:24:54 AM »
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Oh, I only meant that such visions are not driven by *completely* external (and allegedly supernatural) forces.  I would still say the source is internal since it's going to be driven by the meaning it has to the perceiver.

Based on the experiences of my dying parents, I would have to say that memories become random (less organized even than a typical dream state), slightly more vocal (when vocalizations are physically possible), and very confused. 
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Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2017, 08:16:17 PM »
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Oh, I only meant that such visions are not driven by *completely* external (and allegedly supernatural) forces.  I would still say the source is internal since it's going to be driven by the meaning it has to the perceiver.
I know what you meant, Brother. But the weird shit that I have heard and seen, just seems too real, to dismiss as Schizophrenia.
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Offline trdsf

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2017, 12:09:00 AM »
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I know what you meant, Brother. But the weird shit that I have heard and seen, just seems too real, to dismiss as Schizophrenia.
Oh, it's not schizophrenia, it's just the (mis)firings of a complex organ under powerful stress.  There's no pathology involved at all -- well, unless it's actually happening on one's deathbed, but then you've got much bigger problems than not thinking clearly.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2017, 02:26:08 AM »
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Oh, it's not schizophrenia, it's just the (mis)firings of a complex organ under powerful stress.  There's no pathology involved at all -- well, unless it's actually happening on one's deathbed, but then you've got much bigger problems than not thinking clearly.
 

The conscious brain resists death.  It will do almost anything to maintain itself.  It's what we ARE mostly (as humans) beyond being just apes.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2017, 09:03:10 AM »
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The conscious brain resists death.  It will do almost anything to maintain itself.  It's what we ARE mostly (as humans) beyond being just apes.

Willful apes, just not lazy apes.
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