Author Topic: Opinions on Deathbed visions?  (Read 267 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2017, 07:50:38 PM »
LSD ain't got nothin' on this shit, Baruch. The "visitation," that started it off, was way beyond any kind of hallucination. My ex-girlfriend had been hearing my voice talking to her, for days, and came to me with the problem. We went for a drive, and to make a long story short, the ghostly future-me took control of steering the car, turned the windshield into a "movie-screen," and showed us scenes from my future. Hours of time went by, while the two of us witnessed this. When it was done, only a few seconds of actual time had passed, and one car had passed us on the road.

You should have made it into a script, sold it to Hollywood, with Tom Cruise playing you ;-)
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Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2017, 08:24:51 PM »
You should have made it into a script, sold it to Hollywood, with Tom Cruise playing you ;-)
If it weren't for the peripheral embarrassment, that an autobiography would cause, I would probably write one. But Tom Cruise - no.

That gives me an idea:
http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=11447.msg1171664#new
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Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2017, 06:21:29 PM »
The title of the thread says it all - "Opinions on Deathbed visions?" That's all anyone can have is opinions. My own opinion is no better than anyone else's, but I think they're just physiological responses to imbalances in the neurotransmitter system in the brain.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2017, 07:00:41 PM »
The title of the thread says it all - "Opinions on Deathbed visions?" That's all anyone can have is opinions. My own opinion is no better than anyone else's, but I think they're just physiological responses to imbalances in the neurotransmitter system in the brain.

You are also describing wife beating and voting ;-)
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Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2017, 07:07:15 PM »
So you say...
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"It is not God that is worshipped but the group or authority that claims to speak in His name. Sin becomes disobedience to authority not violation of integrity."
Radhakrishnan, Sir Sarvepalli

Offline Baruch

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2017, 12:00:05 AM »
So you say...

Have you stopped beating your President?  Answer only yes or no ;-)  The Americans are like the Honeymooners ... Jackie Gleason's character actually did hit Alice "to the Moon" back during the Apollo missions.
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Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2017, 04:53:18 AM »
Have you stopped beating your President?  Answer only yes or no ;-)  The Americans are like the Honeymooners ... Jackie Gleason's character actually did hit Alice "to the Moon" back during the Apollo missions.
I just liked this post for the fucking off-the-wall beauty of it...
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2017, 05:19:41 AM »
If you have your own NDE or paranormal experience, good for you.  I don't believe in hallucination as ... false.  I consider human experience to be subjective and primary.  But I wouldn't seek them out.  The only reason for wanting to be different, is because you want to be special.  Ordinary experience is supernatural ... you don't need anything else.
The deathbed experiences of the dying are non-factual.  When my mother was dying, she said all sorts of non-facts as her brain failed.  I assume her brain was unspooling in an odd way  They weren't embarrassing family things, just nonsense.  I think her last thoughts were about old movies, but it wasn't clear.  Dad held her in her last moments.  He said she had no idea where or who she was.  Dad died the same way several years later.
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Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2017, 05:34:47 AM »
My Dad's mother, died two years after he did, on the same date. My aunt reported, that in her last hours she was talking to my dad, as well as his brother and sister, who had preceded him in death.

Although I feel I can safely rule out any all-powerful God, I don't completely discredit the possibility of an afterlife, or more probably, a between-life.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2017, 06:20:18 PM »
I just liked this post for the fucking off-the-wall beauty of it...

inspired by a cartoon ... posted by someone else, on another thread here.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2017, 06:22:37 PM »
My Dad's mother, died two years after he did, on the same date. My aunt reported, that in her last hours she was talking to my dad, as well as his brother and sister, who had preceded him in death.

Although I feel I can safely rule out any all-powerful God, I don't completely discredit the possibility of an afterlife, or more probably, a between-life.

Nothing is real, unless repeated in controlled circumstances, by qualified professionals.  Could you get some zombie experts to resurrect them, and have them die again, several times, so see if the paranormal stuff is repeated?
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Online trdsf

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2017, 03:38:47 PM »
Stress brings on remarkable reactions, even when not near death one's self.  I would have sworn I saw my uncle in my mom's kitchen with a mug of coffee in his hand, eight hours after I watched him die in the hospital.  I know I didn't actually see him, but it was a remarkably realistic experience that my emotional state treated me to, and it was helpful since my mind's eye gave me him when he was still healthy.

So yeah, people see things, but they need to look inside for the source of the vision.
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Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2017, 04:42:58 PM »
...So yeah, people see things, but they need to look inside for the source of the vision.
Why?
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Online trdsf

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2017, 04:46:22 PM »
Why?
That's where their visions are coming from -- unless someone happened to physically be in the room.  I meant inside quite literally, not figuratively, since any such vision/hallucination will be generated by the viewer's own brain.
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Offline Solomon Zorn

Re: Opinions on Deathbed visions?
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2017, 04:59:06 PM »
That's where the viewer's visions are coming from -- unless someone happened to physically be in the room.  I meant inside quite literally, not figuratively, since any such vision/hallucination will be generated by the viewer's own brain.
Facilitated by the viewer's own brain, but the origin of the pattern, can be outside  of yourself...at least that has been my experience. Perception. Is it valid, to the one perceiving it, or not?
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