Author Topic: Supreme Court Justice Alito: Gays treat conservative Christians ‘as bigots’  (Read 444 times)

Online Munch

No one ever considers themselves "bigots".  They are convinced they are right and their views are correct.  Then the majority disagrees, they either decide the majority isn't the majority or that the majority needs to "learn the truth".

I watched a Republican Congressman on TV a couple days ago who said that you can't maintain a civilization with "other people's babies".  That was so dumb.  He didn't even realize that he was suggesting eugenics.

Lastly, it amazes me when really conservative people bring out the vaguest arguments in their support.  When facts fail, they suggest social breakdown.  And what it THAT other than "not what they like"?

It works both ways to, when the alt or far left scream about white male privilege, against white guys who probably have gone through life with not a moment of racist or sexist inclination.

Racism exists whatever side of the spectrum people are on.

Offline Cavebear

Yes, eugenics is coming ... the public isn't ready for it yet.  We used to have that policy in the US, the Germans were copying us.  And it was, and will be ... bipartisan.  National security y'know!

Eugenics IS coming.  I saw on a news scroll that 3rd party DNA combinations are bein allowed somewhere.  I didn't get the details.  The thin line has been crossed somewhere and will spread.  Once crossed, it will become routine,
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Offline Baruch

Eugenics IS coming.  I saw on a news scroll that 3rd party DNA combinations are bein allowed somewhere.  I didn't get the details.  The thin line has been crossed somewhere and will spread.  Once crossed, it will become routine,

Correct ... in England they have even combined sheep DNA with human DNA.  They call the result ... voters ;-)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-444436/Now-scientists-create-sheep-thats-15-human.html ... this was 10 years ago, genetic and other kinds of chimeras are now routine.  Since we are "all for privatization" ... corporations and even little Johnny with his chemistry set ... are doing it.  I am looking forward to actual and accidental biological warfare.
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Offline Cavebear

Correct ... in England they have even combined sheep DNA with human DNA.  They call the result ... voters ;-)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-444436/Now-scientists-create-sheep-thats-15-human.html ... this was 10 years ago, genetic and other kinds of chimeras are now routine.  Since we are "all for privatization" ... corporations and even little Johnny with his chemistry set ... are doing it.  I am looking forward to actual and accidental biological warfare.

You are just hopeless sometimes. *sigh*
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Offline Baruch

I report facts (when it suites me) ... and you reject facts (because of who is saying them or because they challenge your prejudices)?  So is my old news link ... fake news?  Or did you just have supper at Comet Pizza?
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I report facts (when it suites me) ... 
Well isn't that suite...
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Offline Cavebear

I report facts (when it suites me) ... and you reject facts (because of who is saying them or because they challenge your prejudices)?  So is my old news link ... fake news?  Or did you just have supper at Comet Pizza?

If you like humor, I will point out that your first use of "suites" made no sense.

But that's not important (except to you).   I don't reject facts.  I have been known to change my mind in the face of them (unlike 90% of other people you know).  When facts oppose my opinion, I consider them seriously, not rejecting them out of hand.

I check sources.  If The Washington Post posts some data from UCLA, I tend to trust it.  If some iffy website reports some news from a Russian source, I check it out double and triple.  And don't much trust it then. 

So you are accusing a dedicated fact-checker of not checking his facts.  LOL!

Name a single specific fact I've mentioned that you think I've gotten wrong. 
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Offline Baruch

You just changed the subject, of Svengali Bear.  You were challenging my facts, not I challenging yours.  But they have to be facts, not editorials.
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Offline trdsf

Well, the real quick solution for the christofascists to quit being called bigots is to quit being bigots.

Of course, that's too obvious for them to grasp.  And it requires them to grow the fuck up and take responsibility for their words and actions.
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." -- Calvin and Hobbes
"Confused? At a loss for what to do? Wow, sounds like you're human. Good luck." -- Welcome to Night Vale

Offline Cavebear

You just changed the subject, of Svengali Bear.  You were challenging my facts, not I challenging yours.  But they have to be facts, not editorials.

Well, no actually I didn't.  you are just saying that hoping other people will assume you are correct.  I did not change the subject, challenge your facts (there were none offerred in your post), nor did I make an editorial. 

Your continued habit of falsifying the content of others' post is offensive.
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Offline Baruch

Well, no actually I didn't.  you are just saying that hoping other people will assume you are correct.  I did not change the subject, challenge your facts (there were none offerred in your post), nor did I make an editorial. 

Your continued habit of falsifying the content of others' post is offensive.

If I misunderstand a post .. then I apologize.  But I will misspell ... but consider it a Freudian slip ... I am not a grammar Nazi of course.
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Offline SGOS

Well, the real quick solution for the christofascists to quit being called bigots is to quit being bigots.
This is exactly the way I see it.  I can allow for people's misunderstanding of themselves.  I've done a lot of that myself over the years,  But when claims about self so clearly contradict behavior of self that it elicits the mocking laughter of others, continuing the contradiction raises denial to the level of the absurd.

Of course, that's too obvious for them to grasp.  And it requires them to grow the fuck up and take responsibility for their words and actions.
This is the mysterious part.  It's so obvious that one shouldn't have to search to see it.

Offline Cavebear

This is exactly the way I see it.  I can allow for people's misunderstanding of themselves.  I've done a lot of that myself over the years,  But when claims about self so clearly contradict behavior of self that it elicits the mocking laughter of others, continuing the contradiction raises denial to the level of the absurd.
This is the mysterious part.  It's so obvious that one shouldn't have to search to see it.

I'm going to agree that if you don't want to be called a "bigot", you should probably stop being one.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead