Marxism 101: Socialism and Communism

[etienne]

Atheon lives in Taiwan, and they use traditional characters there.  Spin isn't a problem, if you are a prima ballerina ;-))  I try to get people to stop choking on their own vomit ... would you prefer I use the Heimlich on you?

Hard to Heimlich me while yer recoupin' from that hammer blow I landed on you.(see, saran wrap fans and cherry bumbs).  You'd prlly like a hine-lick maneuver from yer boy SyLAR!!

(Thus concludes POST #300)

[etienne]

People have a higher standard of living, because they are lucky with parents or spouse ... or because of depredations of ancestors (see royalty).  Jealousy is what it is.  Individualist maniacs think they earned that all on their own, they feel entitled.  The individual does contribute ... if you don't move the food from the plate to your mouth, you might starve ;-0  But individualists are narcissists ... insane.  Hydrophobes aren't crazy about water, you can drown ... but the likelihood of that in the shower in the morning, is small.

Thanks for sharing that Spin Doc.  I'll let my secretary Chloe file that for ya.

[Cavebear]

Hard to Heimlich me while yer recoupin' from that hammer blow I landed on you.(see, saran wrap fans and cherry bumbs).  You'd prlly like a hine-lick maneuver from yer boy SyLAR!!

(Thus concludes POST #300)

You care about numbers?  And it's only 300?  Seems like 10,000

[Sylar]

I figured since you actually wrote something, I'd read it.  "E" for effort..

*NEWS FLASH!  Knock-knock, anybody home?  Are you in there SyLAR?!  Guess what?  They ain't no fing "living wage" for SLAVES, you d-bag, wow, get a life.  Jesus Christ on a Scooter, 1st Worlders suck.  Slaves are slaves, they are "human trafficked".  Un fing real. 

*Shit gets innovated regardless of capitalism. 

*Keep "grooming"...on Iggy Island.

*Where coltan comes from:  "Democratic Republic" of Congo:

First you claim that capitalism cannot exist without low-wage slavery, and I've shown you how that is false.

Now you change the argument entirely.

The argument you make is against capitalism with inadequate governance system, not against capitalism, for capitalism may work with any kind of government and for that we have many proofs, from US to China and everything in between.

Problem of non-livable wages can be solved by improving governance, enforcing laws, and eradicating/minimizing corruption. Getting rid of capitalism to replace it with totalitarian communism is not a solution; can't replace something you think is terrible with a worse, much worse, alternative.

United States had third world working conditions at its factories at one point, but those days are long gone.

"Shit gets innovated regardless of capitalism"

No one made an argument otherwise. Capitalism, however, is the best economic system in existence at encouraging innovation.

[etienne]

Penalized for "triple(maybe more) false equivalency violation", 15 yds, loss of down, possible game ejection with next foul.  Disagreement does not = Nazism.  Nazism = Nazism.  Ignoring does not = Nazism.  Nazism = Nazism.  Nazism does not = Communism, they are antithetic.

[etienne]

Memo:  Updated Exilees




Door prize for anyone who can guess "who's next?"  ;)

[Baruch]

In The Cask Of Amantillado ... the victim doesn't wall himself in, does he?

[Mike Cl]

Memo:  Updated Exilees




Door prize for anyone who can guess "who's next?"  ;)

Me.  I'd rather be on it than not.

[etienne]

Me.  I'd rather be on it than not.

Your wish is my command.  No prize since, er, it's you.

[Shiranu]

Memo:  Updated Exilees




Door prize for anyone who can guess "who's next?"  ;)

Are you 12?

[Sylar]

Are you 12?

No, worse. ~58.

[etienne]

Boy, that was quicker than I thought.  We have, as of last nite, two new deportees to Iggy Island, one voluntary(Management says "thanks"), "Mike CI", and another, somewhat unexpected, "Baruch", who lost all credibility as to political/socioeconomic discourse with his mind boggling and vehement assertion that, I paraphrase, "Plato invented Marxism"!   Perhaps he was drunk.  This claim gave Management severe misgivings as to the possibility that avowed Atheists may, in fact, be as or more stupid than Believers re politics.  Everyone knows that Jesus, not Plato, invented Marxism:

Acts 4:35 King James Version

34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold.
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

Karl Marx-1875

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". 

Please again note, that all deportations are subject to appeal and alot of that depends on the deportee's ability to make Management laugh, NOT cry.



Note:  no prize awarded as 1 deportee was voluntary and no one guessed the other.  Keep trying though--have FAITH!

[Mike Cl]

Are you 12?

I was thinking more like 8/9.

[etienne]

I was thinking more like 8/9.

You volunteered, Mike CI, take some responsibility.

But, haha, you've all been reduced to resorting to ad hominem, which means you "got nothin'".  Gotta "purge" and make space for some real, clear, rational thinkers here.

[pr126]

Gotta "purge" and make space for some real, clear, rational thinkers here.

LOL. Good luck with that.

You mean card carrying communist? Followers of Stalin, Mao, Fidel, Che, Kim Un, Merkel?
Not many of them on this forum.

But really, what are you selling here?

Btw, I am surprised to see Shiranu on your  exile's list. I always thought he was one of your lot.
Ho hum.

When will you storm the Winter Palace? So far it is just hot air. Go for it!

Apropos, the ignore list of yours, is it wise? These were the only ones bothered to reply to your posts.

Keep it up and you have the thread all to yourself.