Author Topic: How Not To Spell Phonetically  (Read 777 times)

Offline SGOS

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2017, 08:53:19 AM »
Parenthetically is one way to not spell phonetically.

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Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2017, 12:23:42 PM »
The J is pronounced like a Y instead of like a J.
Surelj you yest.

Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2017, 12:34:15 PM »
P-w-n E-t-h-i-c-a-l-l-y
E = Mc²

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But let us not choose one direction
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Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2017, 12:35:18 PM »
Next you guys will tell me pecan isn't pronounced "pee-kahn", aunt doesn't rhyme with want, creek doesn't rhyme with week, and caramel doesn't have 3 syllables.

Offline trdsf (OP)

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2017, 01:19:26 PM »
Next you guys will tell me pecan isn't pronounced "pee-kahn", aunt doesn't rhyme with want, creek doesn't rhyme with week, and caramel doesn't have 3 syllables.
The second and third, yeah, they don't.  I've always pronounced them 'ant' and 'crick'.

But is is car-a-mel, or care-a-mel?
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Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2017, 04:39:35 PM »
care-a-mel

Offline trdsf (OP)

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2017, 06:41:57 PM »
care-a-mel
Huh.

I've always done car-(uh)-mel -- barely more than two syllables but not quite three.
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Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2017, 06:49:40 PM »
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Offline Cavebear

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2017, 04:27:32 AM »
Z as in ceasarian"?  LOL!
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Offline admissioninfo

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2017, 03:55:34 AM »
Foundation for Spelling Success


To develop a foundation for spelling success and strengthen spelling skills the student needs to:


    Develop Phonemic Awareness:  Phonemic awareness (PA) is critical to spelling development.   The child needs to be able to recognize and distinguish the sounds within spoken words in order to then translate these sounds back to print. If the child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help that child strengthen their phonemic awareness with PA training. The great news is that research proves PA training has “strong and significant effects on reading and spelling development” (National Reading Panel) See Phonemic Awareness Explained.
    Understand phonemic nature of spelling: The student needs to understand written English is based on a phonemic code. In other words printed black squiggles represent sounds in the word.
    Learn the phonemic code:  The student needs to learn the complete phonemic code. The English phonemic code is complex and the student needs to learn the complete code in order to handle these complexities. The student needs to learn the code systematically beginning with the basic code and then adding the complexities with vowel combinations, r-controlled combinations and other intricacies. Although there is code overlap (more than one way to write a sound), irregular and unexpected spellings, English is based on this phonemic code.
    Approach the process of spelling phonemically: The student needs to base their spelling on converting the sounds in the spoken word into print. They need to write the phonemic code for the sounds in the word. Spelling needs to be approached as recoding sound to print. Once again phonemic awareness is a critical skill. The child must have the phonemic awareness to recognize and distinguish the sounds within words. If your child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help the child strengthen their phonemic awareness.
    Acquire knowledge of spelling patterns and learn helpful guidelines: The student needs to learn and practice the common spelling patterns that are used in English. There are also guidelines that can help us learn correct spelling.  While there are exceptions and irregularities most words follow common patterns. There are also a number of helpful guidelines to aid us in accurate spelling. Children are better able to achieve spelling success when they learn and practice these common patterns and helpful guidelines. 
    Learn/memorize specific and  ‘tricky’ spellings: For accurate spelling the student does need to learn the correct spelling for common words and begin memorizing the specific spelling pattern used for particular words. Accurate spelling can be tricky and does require remembering which spelling pattern is used within certain words.

                                               
 
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Offline Cavebear

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2017, 04:00:26 AM »
Foundation for Spelling Success


To develop a foundation for spelling success and strengthen spelling skills the student needs to:


    Develop Phonemic Awareness:  Phonemic awareness (PA) is critical to spelling development.   The child needs to be able to recognize and distinguish the sounds within spoken words in order to then translate these sounds back to print. If the child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help that child strengthen their phonemic awareness with PA training. The great news is that research proves PA training has “strong and significant effects on reading and spelling development” (National Reading Panel) See Phonemic Awareness Explained.
    Understand phonemic nature of spelling: The student needs to understand written English is based on a phonemic code. In other words printed black squiggles represent sounds in the word.
    Learn the phonemic code:  The student needs to learn the complete phonemic code. The English phonemic code is complex and the student needs to learn the complete code in order to handle these complexities. The student needs to learn the code systematically beginning with the basic code and then adding the complexities with vowel combinations, r-controlled combinations and other intricacies. Although there is code overlap (more than one way to write a sound), irregular and unexpected spellings, English is based on this phonemic code.
    Approach the process of spelling phonemically: The student needs to base their spelling on converting the sounds in the spoken word into print. They need to write the phonemic code for the sounds in the word. Spelling needs to be approached as recoding sound to print. Once again phonemic awareness is a critical skill. The child must have the phonemic awareness to recognize and distinguish the sounds within words. If your child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help the child strengthen their phonemic awareness.
    Acquire knowledge of spelling patterns and learn helpful guidelines: The student needs to learn and practice the common spelling patterns that are used in English. There are also guidelines that can help us learn correct spelling.  While there are exceptions and irregularities most words follow common patterns. There are also a number of helpful guidelines to aid us in accurate spelling. Children are better able to achieve spelling success when they learn and practice these common patterns and helpful guidelines. 
    Learn/memorize specific and  ‘tricky’ spellings: For accurate spelling the student does need to learn the correct spelling for common words and begin memorizing the specific spelling pattern used for particular words. Accurate spelling can be tricky and does require remembering which spelling pattern is used within certain words.


A superb disproof of the theory of phonetics!
« Last Edit: April 21, 2017, 07:09:20 AM by PopeyesPappy »
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Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2017, 06:41:07 PM »
I always say it ca ramm ul to throw people off
god is never early, but he is never late either... so true, so true; but I would rather have him show up late than to not show up at all. When was the last time god showed up for anything??? uh never

Offline Cavebear

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2017, 03:29:41 AM »
And there is the old "ghoti" equals "fish" (gh as in "rough", o as in "women" and ti as in "motion") ...
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Offline Cavebear

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2017, 01:25:53 AM »
Shouldn't "phonemic" be spelled "fonemik"?
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Offline trdsf (OP)

Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2017, 12:57:37 PM »
Shouldn't "phonemic" be spelled "fonemik"?
That was exactly the kind of spelling reform that Teddy Roosevelt championed.

Personally, I'd rather see a shift to the Shavian alphabet, where each letter has one and only one sound so there's no question about how something is pronounced.
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