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thoughts on Mao Zedong?

Started by Jannabear, March 01, 2017, 03:58:42 PM

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etienne

Quote from: Baruch on March 01, 2017, 06:09:16 PM
Depends on if you are a Chinese communist, and if you consider Chang Kai-shek as the alternative.  Both leaders killed millions of their own people, both before, during and after the Japanese-Chinese war.
Seriously, you dont know shit on the subject, so why dont you just stop.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

etienne

Quote from: aitm on March 05, 2017, 09:37:14 PM
There is thought that the nazi's torturing methodology led to many beneficial medical breakthroughs. This is open to great argument, but ask yourself truthfully...should your little one lay dying and the method to save was produced by brutal...brutal methods....... Spock?
Sure, murder 100s of 1000s of concentration camp victims, so your kid can live.  Makes perfect sense, why should you give a shit, right?  Just Jews, right?  It's all history, anyway, and Baruch says history doesn't exist or mean anything.  The connections between Mendele's brutal experiments amd modern medicine are dubious.  Buy hey, get you Mendele ON:

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Josef Mendele, an ardent Nazi, served as medical officer with the Waffen SS during WW2, and was appointed chief doctor at the Auschwitz concentration camp where Jews were selected either for labour, extermination or medical experimentation. He became known as the ‘Angel of Death’, in charge of vast numbers of fatal, bizarre and brutal medical experiments which killed over 400,000 victims.



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The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Atheon

Quote from: Cavebear on March 05, 2017, 01:59:31 AM
Definite road to extinction.
Yet despite the tribulation of labor, we have persisted for millions of years since the time we looked more like apes.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca

Atheon

#18
Quote from: etienne on March 16, 2017, 09:16:55 AM
Seriously, you dont know shit on the subject, so why dont you just stop.
Both leaders were brutal dictators, but Mao was far, far worse. He had some good ideas in the early days, but later he implemented disastrous policies like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, and millions died as a result. China remains an oppressive regime (just ask the Tibetans... hell, just ask anyone trying to get on Facebook or YouTube in China). Taiwan, on the other hand, is one of Asia's most vibrant democracies, plus we have lightning-fast and unrestricted Internet here!
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca

Cavebear

Quote from: etienne on March 16, 2017, 09:04:46 AM
Mao was, IMO, the most profound and influential human being in the history of civilization.  He took Marxism and DIDDIT on a yooge scale!  Good vid, thanks for posting it, Jason Unruhe vids re Mao are better.

(p.s., I wipe my ass with Foxaganda)

Mao is in the grave like Hitler and Stalin.  I think he (like they) did nothing useful and much great harm.  Dead and I wish it had come earlier.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

etienne

#20
Quote from: Atheon on March 16, 2017, 10:29:56 AM
Both leaders were brutal dictators, but Mao was far, far worse. He had some good ideas in the early days, but later he implemented disastrous policies like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, and millions died as a result. China remains an oppressive regime (just ask the Tibetans... hell, just ask anyone trying to get on Facebook or YouTube in China). Taiwan, on the other hand, is one of Asia's most vibrant democracies, plus we have lightning-fast and unrestricted Internet here!
Wrong, guess you didnt watch the vid.  The Tibetans Lamas are a fascist theocracy that liked Hitler and used slave labor.  The slaves rebelled, Mao helped them.  The Dalai Lama is an fing idiot.  Nice try though.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Baruch

Quote from: etienne on March 16, 2017, 08:20:27 PM
Wrong, guess you didnt watch the vid.  The Tibetans Lamas are a fascist theocracy that liked Hitler and used slave labor.  The slaves rebelled, Mao helped them.  The Dalai Lama is an fing idiot.  Nice try though.

He is so wise, he realizes he is the last Dalai Lama .. and that is as it should be, not a tragedy.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: etienne on March 16, 2017, 08:20:27 PM
Wrong, guess you didnt watch the vid.  The Tibetans Lamas are a fascist theocracy that liked Hitler and used slave labor.  The slaves rebelled, Mao helped them.  The Dalai Lama is an fing idiot.  Nice try though.

Did you notice that Tibet is not China?  We were discussing China.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!