Author Topic: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???  (Read 797 times)

Offline fencerider (OP)

Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« on: February 28, 2017, 07:03:03 PM »
During the campaign Trump said he would unite the people of the U.S.. Now that he has chosen some of the worst people possible for cabinet positions, it's clear that he has no desire to unite anyone.

At the same time Donald Trump is addicted to popularity. It really bugs him that less than 50% of the people like him. He is motivated to do anything he can to get 100% of the people to like him.

Is his ideology or desire for popularity going to win out?
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Online Sorginak

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 07:08:36 PM »
That is the Republican way.

"Let's make America great again" is only in reference to the rich, not to everyone who is American.

He does not have it in him to make the population like him.  Besides, he will learn that being president is not akin to television show ratings.

He left that stage and entered an entirely different field of which is he completely clueless.



« Last Edit: February 28, 2017, 07:10:53 PM by Sorginak »
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Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 07:24:45 PM »
They don't want to unite the U.S. - they've got us sufficiently divided, now it's time for them to go to the conquering phase.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 05:06:42 AM »
"Can Trump unite the US?"  Like Lee did The North...
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Offline Baruch

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2017, 07:04:28 AM »
"Can Trump unite the US?"  Like Lee did The North...

The North wasn't as united as you think.  Draft riots, Copperheads, suspension of Habeus Corpus by Lincoln.  The North was already united, before 1861, in hating Southerners, and being all self-righteous New England turkeys.  The South wasn't very united either ... most thought that Jefferson Davis was running a dictatorship, and hoped that tyranny in Richmond would end after the war.  A lot of Southerners were draft dodgers too.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2017, 07:17:41 AM »
During the campaign Trump said he would unite the people of the U.S..
There is no reason or advantage for any politician to achieve such political harmony.  "Unite the people" is code for "everyone should think like me."

Offline Cavebear

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2017, 07:53:35 AM »
The North wasn't as united as you think.  Draft riots, Copperheads, suspension of Habeus Corpus by Lincoln.  The North was already united, before 1861, in hating Southerners, and being all self-righteous New England turkeys.  The South wasn't very united either ... most thought that Jefferson Davis was running a dictatorship, and hoped that tyranny in Richmond would end after the war.  A lot of Southerners were draft dodgers too.

That was my point.  Even the opposition and threat of Lee invading the North twice wasn't sufficient to unite the North.  But they managed to win anyway."Draft riots, Copperheads, suspension of Habeus Corpus by Lincoln" couldn't stop it.  They had a rational government structure and the South did not.  And railroads.

The South had good Generals and dedicated soldiers, but they all thought in terms of their beliefs.  So they lost.

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Offline Baruch

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2017, 01:12:16 PM »
Yes, railroads and industry in the North were important.  That and the British Empire didn't invade the US from Canada, as they were tempted to do.

The North barely won.  Like Churchill later said about US foreign policy ... we try everything possible that doesn't work, first.  The North did that also.  Churchill admired Lee, hated Grant.  I still like Grant, over McClellan.  Grant understood war isn't chess, it is a bar room brawl.
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Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2017, 04:22:05 PM »
Yeah, Chump can unite the U.S. with the new Soviet Union when it arrives...just think, it'll be the U.S. & S.U.!
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Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2017, 04:27:02 PM »
More like the SUUS. Pronounced sux.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2017, 06:45:35 PM »
Yeah, Chump can unite the U.S. with the new Soviet Union when it arrives...just think, it'll be the U.S. & S.U.!

We were already the USSA under the Democrats.  Weren't you paying attention since George McGovern?  And what do you have against totalitarianism, or Russians or communists.  We already have that in the US ... are you bigoted against foreigners?
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Offline trdsf

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 12:38:35 PM »
At the rate he's going, yes, he will unite the country.

Against him.
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Offline Atheon

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2017, 12:45:28 PM »
He meant "untie".
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Offline Baruch

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2017, 06:21:25 PM »
At the rate he's going, yes, he will unite the country.

Against him.

Better an anti-leader than no leader at all.  And yes, that would go farther in turning the public against the White House ... though I give Bill Clinton, George W and Barak a gold star for trying (to alienate everyone).
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Online aitm

Re: Can Trump unite the U.S. ???
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2017, 06:28:10 PM »
If he uses Mao's technique's ....probably
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