I think Socialism has some good ideas but the cowardice behind it is so stupid

[Snowblo]

Like ok, welfare by helping the poor on society getting back to work and to sorta get religious nuts along. Nice, awesome. But then you have the overly crazy lazy people too. Like common, you can use a whip and be nice at the same time.

[Baruch]

Like ok, welfare by helping the poor on society getting back to work and to sorta get religious nuts along. Nice, awesome. But then you have the overly crazy lazy people too. Like common, you can use a whip and be nice at the same time.

People only like the carrot, they don't like the stick.  The discipline of a competitive market is to hard for about half the people (for various reasons).  So socialism is mostly vote buying, using tax money or printed (digital) money.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Like ok, welfare by helping the poor on society getting back to work and to sorta get religious nuts along. Nice, awesome. But then you have the overly crazy lazy people too. Like common, you can use a whip and be nice at the same time.

Hi, pr126.

[pr126]

Ah no. Socialism is communism lite.
Here in Europe socialism is going to bankrupt the EU.
Welfare states going broke by financing millions of economic migrants.
Distributing wealth to the undeserving.

Stay away from socialism. You can't afford it.

[pr126]

Hi, pr126.

Get lost.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Get lost.

Mirror doesn't flatter you?

[Mr.Obvious]

Ah no. Socialism is communism lite.

Ah! Or is it capitalism lite?

[Baruch]

In every civilization, there are people who do the work, at home or in the field, same as in the Stone Age.  And there are those who are too young or too old to contribute much.  But we always have the freeloaders too.  The leaders who claim they can make everyone rich ... are often elected, those who claim they can make everyone poor ... are not elected.  So liars rise to the top of every society, because of greed and laziness of the people.

[badger2]

No, Bernie Sanders played the role of the middle tine of the Impossible Trident, disappearing at precisely the orchestrated time. That is because at a certain point, socialism becomes impossible. The Indigene perceives the Trident correctly the first time, though White Eyes may not (see www.).

The syncretism is going down now.

It is wrong to claim that China faces the choice of either becoming a truly capitalist country or of maintaining a Communist system which inevitably thwarts full capitalist development. This choice is a false one: in today's China, capitalist growth is exploding not in spite of Communist rule but because of it -- far from being an obstacle to capitalist development, Communist rule guarantees the optimal conditions for an unbridled capitalism.'
(Slavoj Zizek to Pussy Riot's Nadya Tolokonnikova, 12 Dec 2013) 

[PickelledEggs]

Hi, pr126.

Mirror doesn't flatter you?

I love you, Gawdzilla.

[Baruch]

No, Bernie Sanders played the role of the middle tine of the Impossible Trident, disappearing at precisely the orchestrated time. That is because at a certain point, socialism becomes impossible. The Indigene perceives the Trident correctly the first time, though White Eyes may not (see www.).

The syncretism is going down now.

It is wrong to claim that China faces the choice of either becoming a truly capitalist country or of maintaining a Communist system which inevitably thwarts full capitalist development. This choice is a false one: in today's China, capitalist growth is exploding not in spite of Communist rule but because of it -- far from being an obstacle to capitalist development, Communist rule guarantees the optimal conditions for an unbridled capitalism.'
(Slavoj Zizek to Pussy Riot's Nadya Tolokonnikova, 12 Dec 2013)

Mega kudos for the Zizek reference!

We have one Habermas follower on here, but she has been gone for some weeks now.

[Sylar]

"The American people will take socialism, but they won't take the label." -- Upton Sinclair

[doorknob]

In every civilization, there are people who do the work, at home or in the field, same as in the Stone Age.  And there are those who are too young or too old to contribute much.  But we always have the freeloaders too.  The leaders who claim they can make everyone rich ... are often elected, those who claim they can make everyone poor ... are not elected.  So liars rise to the top of every society, because of greed and laziness of the people.

I wouldn't say lazy, do you know how much energy it takes to screw all those people!

[Baruch]

I wouldn't say lazy, do you know how much energy it takes to screw all those people!

Subject/object error ... yes the Elite do work hard, that is why they have to take so many breaks at the 19th hole of the golf course ;-)  It is the people who are lazy.

[Cavebear]

Subject/object error ... yes the Elite do work hard, that is why they have to take so many breaks at the 19th hole of the golf course ;-)  It is the people who are lazy.

Yeah, right, golf is THE game for people who work multiple jobs and collapse on their beds at night seeking 4 hours sleep before it is time to catch a bus and 2 transfers to start all over again 6 days a week.