Author Topic: Opinions on Out of Body Experiences?  (Read 317 times)

Offline SGOS

Re: Opinions on Out of Body Experiences?
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2017, 10:57:18 AM »
Ultimately you die if deprived long enough.  Then things get really weird, not just partly dead, but fully dead.  And nobody reports on what that is like.
I recall an account of some medieval forerunner of science who was about to be sent to the gallows.  He and a friend were wondering how fast death would come after the beheading.  His friend helpfully offered that it would be instantaneous, and the scientist asked him to attend his beheading, and said he would attempt blink his eyes when his head was in the basket, and asked his friend to record the results.  I can't remember what the results were, but I was impressed with the scientist's dedication to experimental test results.

Offline Baruch

Re: Opinions on Out of Body Experiences?
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2017, 11:47:49 AM »
Probably Lavoisier ... he was an inventor of chemistry.  And as a royal tax collector, lost any further opportunities to advance science.
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Re: Opinions on Out of Body Experiences?
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2017, 12:37:00 PM »
My mother's NDE. 

She was in the hospital recovering from a knee replacement surgery.  She was an insulin taking diabetic as well.  The night nurse somehow managed to give her a double dose of her evening insulin shot.  My mom recalled awaking and feeling very shaky (as one does when one's blood sugar dips too low) and very cold.  She 'saw' Earth beneath her and she was slowly moving away.  She picked up speed and the Earth and light began growing dimmer and dimmer.  She was at the point when there would be no light and she realized with a start that she was not finished yet--her boys still needed her and she began what she said was a huge struggle to get back to earth before the dark swallowed her up totally.  After what seemed a huge and very long struggle she made it back to her hospital bed, rang the nurse and explained how she was feeling.  She recovered.  Her NDE was sort of in reverse of the 'follow the light' types.  She was following the dark and had to make an effort to get to the light which was her hospital room.  She was not, before or after this incident, religious.  She was not sure about reincarnation or life after death but figured the most likely thing is that we die and that is it.  Both my grandfather (on my mother's side) and her told me that they would contact me if at all possible.  So far, dead silence.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: Opinions on Out of Body Experiences?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2017, 01:17:03 PM »
I've had many out of booty experiences. Six months at sea will do that to you.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline SGOS

Re: Opinions on Out of Body Experiences?
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2017, 01:56:00 PM »
Probably Lavoisier ... he was an inventor of chemistry.  And as a royal tax collector, lost any further opportunities to advance science.
I read that account so long ago, not even that little jog helps.  But it could have been him.

Offline Baruch

Re: Opinions on Out of Body Experiences?
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2017, 03:14:58 PM »
I read that account so long ago, not even that little jog helps.  But it could have been him.

http://wtffunfact.com/post/80114469400/antoine-lavoisier-18th-century-french-chemist
« Last Edit: April 08, 2017, 03:29:52 PM by Baruch »
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Opinions on Out of Body Experiences?
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2017, 05:33:53 AM »
When the brain is failing, odd connections happen.  We "know" we should imagine past experiences the same way we "know" what aliens look like.  There are common cultural references.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead